Message from @LordCaledus

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2018-07-10 19:19:00 UTC  

It was engaging, yes

2018-07-10 19:19:14 UTC  

In a way i would rather avoid in my daily drive

2018-07-10 19:19:31 UTC  

If your steering wheel is not directly connected to the steering box, you're wrong.

2018-07-10 19:19:40 UTC  

well he also doesn't care about the performance, I mean he bought an urus as soon as it was available

2018-07-10 19:19:50 UTC  

because he wants the badge

2018-07-10 19:20:05 UTC  

I think part of the problem is that speed has become meaningless.

2018-07-10 19:20:13 UTC  

Or more accurately power

2018-07-10 19:20:29 UTC  

the gumball drivers would disagree

2018-07-10 19:20:43 UTC  

Because once you get above about 700hp, getting it to the pavement is almost impossible on a road legal vehicle

2018-07-10 19:20:57 UTC  

700hp is barely faster than 600 these days

2018-07-10 19:21:13 UTC  

Not without significant compromises

2018-07-10 19:21:38 UTC  

I think the chiron might dispute that

2018-07-10 19:21:58 UTC  

Throw enough money at it and anything is possible

2018-07-10 19:22:12 UTC  

So lets stick to the realm of the mass produced

2018-07-10 19:22:26 UTC  

I mean the chiron barely even makes money

2018-07-10 19:22:34 UTC  

At $2.7 million

2018-07-10 19:22:37 UTC  

there are also some tuned jap awd machines that definitely put down some really absurd times

2018-07-10 19:22:54 UTC  

And i am certain those were cheap to build.

2018-07-10 19:23:15 UTC  

And can be driven comfortably everyday to work.

2018-07-10 19:23:29 UTC  

Cheaper than the average executive sedan

2018-07-10 19:23:38 UTC  

See the second point

2018-07-10 19:23:43 UTC  

the problem with them tends to be clutch weight and turbo lag

2018-07-10 19:24:07 UTC  

though there was a 1500hp supra that had a stupid motorcycle beating 0-60 and was road legal a few years ago

2018-07-10 19:24:10 UTC  

which ran an auto

2018-07-10 19:24:21 UTC  

We are kind of at the point where it takes serious compromises to get significant performance gains

2018-07-10 19:24:32 UTC  

Either in comfort, or in cost

2018-07-10 19:24:36 UTC  

well turbo lag isn't much of a compromise

2018-07-10 19:24:52 UTC  

Hell, man, a stock evo is barely a daily

2018-07-10 19:25:00 UTC  

I doubt the kustom ones were better

2018-07-10 19:25:26 UTC  

I've never driven an evo, I heard some nasty things about the FQ400 though

2018-07-10 19:25:31 UTC  

but that's not really stock

2018-07-10 19:25:42 UTC  

I have driven a few imprezas around 300-450hp

2018-07-10 19:26:05 UTC  

If I was being picky, the clutch was a little heavy on the higher hp ones

2018-07-10 19:26:19 UTC  

450 isnt crazy tho

2018-07-10 19:26:24 UTC  

but it's not something that would really bother me

2018-07-10 19:26:52 UTC  

450hp is a decent amount in a '99 impreza

2018-07-10 19:27:13 UTC  

Im talking shit that would be the equivalent of an OG Mustang Eleanor.

2018-07-10 19:27:14 UTC  

they don't weigh much at all, and they do grip like the rubber is wrapped in glue

2018-07-10 19:27:20 UTC  

700 and 800hp monsters

2018-07-10 19:27:39 UTC  

I've driven a 600hp supra, that would have worked fine as a daily

2018-07-10 19:28:26 UTC  

the brakes on that were utter garbage though, but I think something was genuinely wrong with them