Am I exploiting a high school kid sweeping my floors if I only pay him $3/hr?

things are somewhat different now most of the west has some level of welfare state

and, probably

No, I'm not.

Exploitation of labor is a myth

perhaps that employee is not aware of the value of his labour and will accept a lower pay than it is worth

As long as labor unions are legal, exploitation has a hard counter

That's more than the value of his labor. I don't need a floor sweeper

thus you are exploiting imperfect information

Also value is relative

in which case, economically

You cannot dictate value

you shouldn't be employing him

that is inefficient

Why not? He wants $3/hr, and I would like an apprentice to learn a bit of my trade before I hire him full time

If the company only values a janitor at $3 an hour, that is the value as far as they are concerned

If the janitor believes his value is more, he can goe elsewhere and they can get a robot instead

Or someone who agrees with the value judgement

No one else can decide what value work is worth except the employer and employee

If that becomes a problem then

Step 1: make unions legal

Step 2: unionize

Skip step 1 of it is redundant

well the problem is that ultimately, most low skilled labour ends up with an excess supply of potential employees which, with no minimum wage, ends up with earnings so low that people end up slaves to their employers in order to scrape through survival

Which is why unions were invented

unions are a danger in themselves

When allowed unlimited power

I do not approve of unions at all

Right to work fixes that

If you have a choice on whether or not to join a union, the union must give you incentive to join and cannot exploit you

The problem is that unions have become permanent fixtures. That is wrong.

unions are basically unnecessary bureaucracy, the law should be solid on worker rights and treatment, unions should not be necessary ever

Once again, then you just create unemployment

doubtful

We literally just went through that

But this is not car related

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