I just think the whole thing with all the outsourcing is really weird, considering they make the extremely good Lexus engines and platforms fully in house, but yeah the 86 is its own thing.

The 86 body was developed by Toyota, with Subaru supplying the engine

Subaru manufactures the whole thing though.

because apparently toyota can't design a good engine?

I didn't say it was simple 😂

I mean it's very weird

"We'll design it, you build it and put your powerplant in"

They got the direct injection for the engine from Toyota, but Toyota isn't actually building any of them.

toyota are like the car production powerhouse of the world but they seem to have just decided making boring shitboxes is the best thing for them

They got the direct injection for the engine from Toyota, but Toyota isn't actually building any of them.

toyota are like the car production powerhouse of the world but they seem to have just decided making boring shitboxes is the best thing for them

why is my discord fucking up

Discord is fucking the dog right now

Has been all day

Oh good as long as there's not something wonky with my router

Having to re-send everything makes it harder to have this conversation.

Don't resend, just let it update

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The level of teasing is really ridiculous at this point too, this thing is supposed to be on sale within like a year, what's left to hide about the design?

Toyota is probably embarrassed that they forgot to get rid of the kidney bean grill, and just replaced the BMW badge with their own.

lol

Considering LaFerrari is a few years old now, and the last one was built last year, is it time to start speculating about what's next?

I'm guessing it will be another Ferrari.

something with a prancing horse badge?

A bit late

Deleted. Got my manufacturers mixed up

Maybe the GT86 needs a turbo. Frankly I think it more needs a supercharger.

I'm so used to arguing against the BRZ getting a turbo, since that would just make it a two door WRX, and if people want that then Subaru should just remove two doors from the WRX

The 86? That I could see with some form of forced induction.

I do think all the BRZ needs is an uplevel version with a high revving 2.5L.

250-260hp 2.5L boxer 4, 7k to 8k RPMs plz.

But *Supra* trim with 6cyl

I'm not sure an inline 6 would fit.

Nor am I sure the 3.5 V6 is up for sports car duty

Just like the Celica was lengthened for the inline 6, do that for the 86

I really think they need a _new_ nameplate, frankly.

Even the new Supra would be less offensive if it had a different name.

Essentially, people are looking for a Toyota muscle car

The only name Toyota needs to bring back is _maybe_ the AE86.

And the current Corolla is nowhere near up to scratch for that. Hell, they already have the GT86 anyway

I could see a Toyota muscle car being good.