Message from @Matt
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Just like the Celica was lengthened for the inline 6, do that for the 86
I really think they need a _new_ nameplate, frankly.
Even the new Supra would be less offensive if it had a different name.
Essentially, people are looking for a Toyota muscle car
The only name Toyota needs to bring back is _maybe_ the AE86.
And the current Corolla is nowhere near up to scratch for that. Hell, they already have the GT86 anyway
I could see a Toyota muscle car being good.
But really, only if it had a large displacement, high compression, low boost turbo 6 cyl.
Like a 4.0T V6 with 400-430hp.
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the st185 is much vetter looking than the 205
better
also i6>v6 anyday
replacing an air filter on a mk2 focus is a 2 minute job, replacing the pollen filter is total bs though
Eh. I6 is good for truck engines. Too heavy for anything else.
I mean when your 3.0L i6 weighs as much as a 5.3L iron block V8, it might be time to switch to a different engine.
V6s are not an especially good sounding engine layout, even less so with turbos. With 400-430hp something marketed as a Toyota muscle car would be DOA these days. Especially when the 2UR already makes more than that and actually sounds good. Every review of that car would just be "I don't understand why they didn't put the 2UR in it"
That a V6 doesn't sound good is relative. There are more than a few V6 sports cars out there being bought by legions of drivers who love the sound.
That said, I agree, if they made a muscle car then the 2UR would be a good choice
The only real issue with it is that it would hurt the difference in brands.
It would have to be quite a different car not to encroach, even if only a little, on Lexus' V8 sports cars
But tbh, Lexus is clearly moving away from N/A V8s, anyway.
Lexus/Toyota, I mean.
The LS doesn't have any V8s at all anymore. They're steadily removing the naturally aspirated engines from the other Lexus cars as well.
And cars like the Camry, by Toyota's own admission, only have a V6 option because it makes for a better halo version of it. Hardly anyone actually buys the top engine option on the Camry anyway, so they can afford to.
The moment that changes, they will likely nyx the V6 on that car too.
And the momentum for turbo engines, at least at the moment, seems to be shifting towards mid displacement, low boost, high compression motors, as seen with the new Tiguan, Silverado, CX-9, and others since they get better fuel economy and have better driving dynamics than small displacement, high boost, mid compression motors.
Given that, I could really see Toyota making a muscle car with a V6 turbo.
Gimme dat ol' 4.0 Lexus V8
That would be good too
V6 would have better torque tho...
Oh look
Another way to make houses more expensive with no feasible gains
That's like $50 in parts
i6 is smoother running than v engines as well and the reason inline engines carry weight is because traditionally those heavy inline engines were made of heavy materials, and handled a lot of boost as a result, not all good inline engines are heavy though; the s54 is pretty reasonable really
GM killed off the Atlas 4.2 too soon