a bunch of cars activate hazard lights under heavy braking, I don't know how that works with North American cars though. In terms of not being able to see indicators because of brake lights overpowering the amber, I'm not sure if that matters too much since the brakes tell you to avoid/be cautious anyway

https://youtu.be/amjusAWe3f4

I'm not a huge fan of air ride (despite liking dumb bouncy hydraulics) but damn that car looks good

I had a silly, most likely unworkable idea for reviving Pontiac once

Like as an independent company. Technically you could probably do it since it has been so long since GM has used that name. The trademark for that is likely well past it's use-by date.

Like the whole schtick for the company would be modular, high torque, high compression engines, starting with motorcycles

With a modular engine series ranging from 1 to 3 cylinders for bikes with 680cc cylinders.

Then branching into pocket rockets with small sporty/sports cars powered by 2-4 cylinder engines of the same series.

From there to SUVs with a similar modular engine series that is separate, but would share many parts with the inline series to keep cost down, including the 680cc cylinders

Interesting, but I do agree that part compatibility across many different models should be looked at more closely.

The biggest problem would be the jump from motorcycles to cars

You could absolutely make Pontiac a company of low-revving torque monster bikes.

But cars? That's a tough industry to get into

All the safety, emissions, etc requirements make entry almost impossible

Unless you're Tesla and you have the government throwing millions of dollars at you (plus your own personal fortune behind you) powering your startup.

Oh, yeah no. Pontiac as a motorcycle company is dumb lol

Idk. I could see it.

Brand it right and it could sell

Worst comes to worse you have a different name for the bikes but keep the engines

Just use a different name. You'd get *less* customers just from using the Pontiac name. That's how they died in the first place, by making shit-boxes that didn't deserve to sit next to the Firebird and GTO

True

But what about muscle bikes?

Could those not sit on a lot with a Pontiac badge?

I mean you're right. At the very least it's not worth the risk.

You _could_ do it tho

No. That would have made Pontiac die quicker.

Back in the day, yeah

This isn't 2009 tho

How did GM execs not understand this?

The problem with Pontiac was that it didn't have an identity

It did, before your time

Like it branded itself as a sporty brand, yet it had Minivans and the Aztek.

Pontiac died in the 80s, dude

Prior to 2000, they could have salvaged it

Purge the minivans. No Aztek. Get rid of the stupid af rebadged chevies.

lol no

Start out with what Lincoln is doing now. Keep rebadged models, but have them be so different in nature that only a particularly savvy customer would realize what it shares its bones with.

Seriously, what led you to this logic? I feel like this is the same as GM execs had. I'm curious

Mainly, looking at Pontiacs as they "developed" after the 1970s, combined with looking at how their sales went

And looking at when GM was taken over by accountants

You're kind of right