Message from @LordCaledus
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You could absolutely make Pontiac a company of low-revving torque monster bikes.
But cars? That's a tough industry to get into
All the safety, emissions, etc requirements make entry almost impossible
Unless you're Tesla and you have the government throwing millions of dollars at you (plus your own personal fortune behind you) powering your startup.
Oh, yeah no. Pontiac as a motorcycle company is dumb lol
Idk. I could see it.
Brand it right and it could sell
Worst comes to worse you have a different name for the bikes but keep the engines
Just use a different name. You'd get *less* customers just from using the Pontiac name. That's how they died in the first place, by making shit-boxes that didn't deserve to sit next to the Firebird and GTO
True
But what about muscle bikes?
Could those not sit on a lot with a Pontiac badge?
I mean you're right. At the very least it's not worth the risk.
You _could_ do it tho
No. That would have made Pontiac die quicker.
Back in the day, yeah
This isn't 2009 tho
How did GM execs not understand this?
The problem with Pontiac was that it didn't have an identity
It did, before your time
Pontiac died in the 80s, dude
Prior to 2000, they could have salvaged it
Purge the minivans. No Aztek. Get rid of the stupid af rebadged chevies.
lol no
Start out with what Lincoln is doing now. Keep rebadged models, but have them be so different in nature that only a particularly savvy customer would realize what it shares its bones with.
Seriously, what led you to this logic? I feel like this is the same as GM execs had. I'm curious
Mainly, looking at Pontiacs as they "developed" after the 1970s, combined with looking at how their sales went
And looking at when GM was taken over by accountants
You're kind of right
Pontiac died in the 1980s
Because that was about when they became rebadged Chevies with literally no other worthwhile differences.
The logic being that they would make more money by rebadging Chevies and riding on Pontiac's reputation.
It worked...for a little while
And then it didn't.
This is partly with inside info. I have family that have been in the Big Three for a long time.
Rebadging vehicles is assuming your average customer is dumber than you think.
Depends on how you do it.
Sharing parts, to a degree, is smart.
You keep costs low that way
That's not rebadging