it's not really a new thing as far as I'm aware, if you store vehicles in places with lots of rodents the electrics tend to get fucked

#rip

we should go back to asbestos wiring to prevent this.

I mean, even classic cars ended up with chewed out wiring from rats and mice searching for food

they'll chew through anything to make a path

admittedly it's not outright eating it

I really do not think a 4 pot Supra will impact the 86 if it is, say, a 300hp 2.0T

It's still a Beamer

Probably

I doubt they are gonna even use their own 2.0t

*Probably?* It's built in Austria lol

They could still use a Toyota engine.

But I doubt they will

Not that it would matter. It would still be a German nightmare

Toyota is going really low effort on this one.

Nightmare?

Man, I begin to wonder if you have ever driven a German sports car.

The only way this will be anything bad is if be makes it too much like the old Z

I'm not talking about 'driving experience' I'm talking about electrical problems

Which was not their greatest sports car

Eh

That's every car with fancy gadgets

🙄

If the supra lacks those it could escape that

Fuck.what is up with discord today?

Duplicated that message like 4 times

the smaller bmw engines have been garbage since 2006

also I had this discussion earlier, the gt86 is gonna likely cost half as much as even the cheapest "supra" option

so it doesn't really occupy the same market segment at all

honestly the hype over the new "supra" is entirely based on the name, nothing about the car reflects its origins. It's like the new nsx compared to the original, it's the automotive equivalent of an amy schumer joke; unfunny and gross

I'd argue the NSX is a legitimate replacement

It's still a Honda, mid engine, and sufficiently advanced enough to show off the brand.

the original nsx was supposed to be a pure driving car, light, nimble with incredible road feel and feedback

the... reiteration is like 400kg fatter and disconnects the driver from the road

it isn't a pure driver car at all anymore

don't get me wrong, it's an industry trend, but usually they don't bastardize old names as cash grabs outside of america

I'm looking at you chevrolet impala

The original NSX was supposed to be Honda's attempt at entering the 'supercar' market, and it just HAPPENED to be a magnificent driving car. That wasn't it's *purpose* though.

The original NSX was never considered a "supercar" it competed with the 348/F355, base model 911s, the Lotus Esprit, Corvette, etc. All of those were just considered sports cars. Supercars at the time were cars like the F40, 959, XJ220 and EB110. The current idea of "entry level supercars" didn't exist.

The current NSX is a complete flop sales wise, and in kind of a no man's land as far as price and performance to the point where it's not a direct competitor for any one car.

Yeah, but *technology*