Then one can bring up the $19k Corolla

"chevrolet" these days for most people is just a step above cars like Kia and below toyota

I haven't driven a prius in some considerable time, I remember the older ones were "okay" until you hit about 80-85

at which point they felt awful

I've ridden in a newer one.

It is horrendous to drive.

At a guess, I would assume the prius interior was of slightly higher quality than the cruze but I've never been in a cruze

At least it seems that way

Nah

A Cruze has about the same interior quality.

A Cruze has about the same interior quality.

I do remember the prius had surprisingly nice leather seats

Base Cruzes might be worse, but above that they'd be about equal IMO.

A Cruze has about the same interior quality.

Base Cruzes might be worse, but above that they'd be about equal IMO.

I see discord is running like shit again

Yep

I mean genuinely used car prices rarely reflect cars being good or bad, they reflect original cost and perception to a far greater degree

But again, with that you can bring up the Toyota Corolla

Which, to be fair, is less efficient than the Cruze new or old.

My mothers 2009 focus, which by American yearing would be 2010, was a little shy of $2000, yet a 2007 mini cooper would cost the same or more despite being a considerably worse car

But it would still take half a decade for the cost to even out between a Corolla and a Prius

the focus is more practical, it's more reliable, it's cheaper to maintain, it offers the same fuel economy, it is marginally slower but considerably more comfortable with more features inside

I suppose it's just consumers being weird, really

but a mini is a mini!!!1

There's no practical reason to choose a Prius over other econoboxes

Or, hell, over other hybrids

I guess the mini is probably nicer to drive

I'd buy an Ioniq

That car seems fun

Dual clutch transmission and instant electric torque?

Yes plz

but.... I dunno, if I'm buying a cheap car I don't care all that much about what it's like to drive

I just want it to be reliable

It's why I like focuses, they're reliable

and cheap

I wish the fiestas had more timing chain engine options

Yeah, about that EcoBoost engine lol

Pretty much all of them are at risk for head warpage prior to 50k miles

The cylinders have a "water cooled jacket", so they're only attached to the rest of the head at the bottom end

New Focuses aren't too reliable

The automatics at least

I wouldn't buy an ecoboost