well, considering city driving, I would bet that the hybrid actually pays off here in fuel saving

Maybe

but then our fuel costs are 6.50 a gallon ish and our traffic absurd

My car averages 35mpg in pure city driving. A Prius gets 55.

so it's not quite the same scenario

That's not quite a large enough difference to make up $5,200

And 2 years

Like the Prius example I gave above was 2 years older than my car

Even looking at new ones it's ridiculous

A Cruze diesel 6MT is $23k

An equivalent Prius is $1k more expensive but achieves the same average mileage per fuelly for most people

I mean, maybe it's worth it in the city, but you'd have to drive a _lot_ to make up that difference.

I think it comes down to brand value as well

Then one can bring up the $19k Corolla

"chevrolet" these days for most people is just a step above cars like Kia and below toyota

I haven't driven a prius in some considerable time, I remember the older ones were "okay" until you hit about 80-85

at which point they felt awful

I've ridden in a newer one.

It is horrendous to drive.

At a guess, I would assume the prius interior was of slightly higher quality than the cruze but I've never been in a cruze

At least it seems that way

Nah

A Cruze has about the same interior quality.

A Cruze has about the same interior quality.

I do remember the prius had surprisingly nice leather seats

Base Cruzes might be worse, but above that they'd be about equal IMO.

A Cruze has about the same interior quality.

Base Cruzes might be worse, but above that they'd be about equal IMO.

I see discord is running like shit again

Yep

I mean genuinely used car prices rarely reflect cars being good or bad, they reflect original cost and perception to a far greater degree

But again, with that you can bring up the Toyota Corolla

Which, to be fair, is less efficient than the Cruze new or old.

My mothers 2009 focus, which by American yearing would be 2010, was a little shy of $2000, yet a 2007 mini cooper would cost the same or more despite being a considerably worse car

But it would still take half a decade for the cost to even out between a Corolla and a Prius

the focus is more practical, it's more reliable, it's cheaper to maintain, it offers the same fuel economy, it is marginally slower but considerably more comfortable with more features inside

I suppose it's just consumers being weird, really

but a mini is a mini!!!1

There's no practical reason to choose a Prius over other econoboxes

Or, hell, over other hybrids

I guess the mini is probably nicer to drive