Message from @Sediment
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Totally intended
UK regulations take sales into account
AML make like 6k cars a year, them wanting to sell 4k is huge
literally huge
Just gonna ignore that part I guess
Yeah *so why are you even bringing it up*
@LOGiK Fair point
I can say with certainty that car manufacturers don't sell cars to make a loss, if they have bullshit regulations to comply with they just sell garbage ass engines in their cars
or suffocate them to shit
you can see that from the 70s all the way up to today
the old underpowered shitty american cars with huge engines that were detuned to shit
hell even in the 90s with the US spec M3 that was detuned
and now, look to china with western cars
where because of import taxes and taxes on big engines
they offered really horrible engines in huge cars
there was a jag XJ on sale in china with a 2.0 diesel
Those 1970s engines weren't detuned by choice.
That was universal emissions regulations that choked those
"Regulations affect products on the market" god forbid
That was a "emit less than this or don't sell the car at _all_" situation
the car industry does not operate to make any kind of loss, instead it will deceive regulators and consumers while maintaining profit
that means that regulations force substandard products usually
but car manufacturers aren't going to start producing things that literally wont sell
Hol' up
cocaine why are you the only rational person in this chat
Was it the Porsche 944 or some other car that...wait I'm gonna need to look this up to get numbers
@Sediment It would be incredibly unusual for an industry to not have loss leaders.
I don't know of any other industry that does, at least not that sells directly to private consumers
What the fuck do you think a loss leader is for?
What is the function of a loss leader
Or other products sold for a loss.
loss leaders don't work in the car industry
No one is going to the car store for a big sale and then deciding "Oh while I'm here let me just spend *an extra fifty thousand dollars*"
loss leaders work for places like walmart to get people through the door and buy the loss product and other products which counter the loss, but yeah
cars are mostly a one off purchase
You can, however, sell a car with the intention of shining positive light on a brand
Ie, halo cars
but no mass production car can do that because it would be too costly
I will apologize for being rude earlier. @Sediment I was frustrated after the deal with Matt.
I won't apologize but I will accept yours