Message from @Sediment

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2018-08-06 00:26:25 UTC  

Great fucking example of cars designed to never sell

2018-08-06 00:26:32 UTC  

The car haled as a disaster because it didn't sell

2018-08-06 00:26:48 UTC  

Totally intended

2018-08-06 00:26:55 UTC  

UK regulations take sales into account

2018-08-06 00:26:56 UTC  

AML make like 6k cars a year, them wanting to sell 4k is huge

2018-08-06 00:26:58 UTC  

literally huge

2018-08-06 00:27:02 UTC  

Just gonna ignore that part I guess

2018-08-06 00:27:02 UTC  

Yeah *so why are you even bringing it up*

2018-08-06 00:27:09 UTC  

@LOGiK Fair point

2018-08-06 00:30:15 UTC  

I can say with certainty that car manufacturers don't sell cars to make a loss, if they have bullshit regulations to comply with they just sell garbage ass engines in their cars

2018-08-06 00:30:23 UTC  

or suffocate them to shit

2018-08-06 00:30:34 UTC  

you can see that from the 70s all the way up to today

2018-08-06 00:30:52 UTC  

the old underpowered shitty american cars with huge engines that were detuned to shit

2018-08-06 00:31:02 UTC  

hell even in the 90s with the US spec M3 that was detuned

2018-08-06 00:31:10 UTC  

and now, look to china with western cars

2018-08-06 00:31:20 UTC  

where because of import taxes and taxes on big engines

2018-08-06 00:31:30 UTC  

they offered really horrible engines in huge cars

2018-08-06 00:31:39 UTC  

there was a jag XJ on sale in china with a 2.0 diesel

2018-08-06 00:32:07 UTC  

Those 1970s engines weren't detuned by choice.

2018-08-06 00:32:16 UTC  

That was universal emissions regulations that choked those

2018-08-06 00:32:40 UTC  

"Regulations affect products on the market" god forbid

2018-08-06 00:32:41 UTC  

That was a "emit less than this or don't sell the car at _all_" situation

2018-08-06 00:32:45 UTC  

Businesses do business anyway

2018-08-06 00:33:59 UTC  

the car industry does not operate to make any kind of loss, instead it will deceive regulators and consumers while maintaining profit

2018-08-06 00:34:10 UTC  

that means that regulations force substandard products usually

2018-08-06 00:34:31 UTC  

but car manufacturers aren't going to start producing things that literally wont sell

2018-08-06 00:34:33 UTC  

Hol' up

2018-08-06 00:34:45 UTC  

cocaine why are you the only rational person in this chat

2018-08-06 00:34:56 UTC  

Was it the Porsche 944 or some other car that...wait I'm gonna need to look this up to get numbers

2018-08-06 00:35:15 UTC  

@Sediment It would be incredibly unusual for an industry to not have loss leaders.

2018-08-06 00:35:33 UTC  

I don't know of any other industry that does, at least not that sells directly to private consumers

2018-08-06 00:35:36 UTC  

What the fuck do you think a loss leader is for?

2018-08-06 00:35:41 UTC  

What is the function of a loss leader

2018-08-06 00:35:49 UTC  

Or other products sold for a loss.

2018-08-06 00:36:06 UTC  

loss leaders don't work in the car industry

2018-08-06 00:36:30 UTC  

No one is going to the car store for a big sale and then deciding "Oh while I'm here let me just spend *an extra fifty thousand dollars*"

2018-08-06 00:36:38 UTC  

loss leaders work for places like walmart to get people through the door and buy the loss product and other products which counter the loss, but yeah

2018-08-06 00:36:49 UTC  

cars are mostly a one off purchase

2018-08-06 00:36:55 UTC  

You can, however, sell a car with the intention of shining positive light on a brand

2018-08-06 00:37:02 UTC  

Ie, halo cars

2018-08-06 00:37:30 UTC  

but no mass production car can do that because it would be too costly