50mpg is only like 5mpg over what petrol offers

Not...really?

Which isn't enough to break even on fuel costs

and the cost is you end up with a less pleasant to drive vehicle

Most cruzes get like _maybe_ 35mpg

Eh

Less pleasant to you

And also literally the cost of more expensive fuel.

Let's go back, your argument for diesel cars existing was that you like a car that will "pull in any gear", and I asked you to name a good example.

more understeer, less flexible engine, more picky engine in terms of gearing

You name the diesel Cruze, a car with a 0-60 time of 8 seconds.

Here we go again...

More fags trying to put things in your tail pipe

Base price 24k

I'm not saying diesels are bad, there are some crazy diesels out there, I'm just saying that in general for any diesel car there is a better petrol version

And? The equivalent gasser starts at $22k.

that said, for haulage diesel is absolutely better

I've got a diesel that fits the bill

1980 Mercedes turbodiesels

Diesel cruze only comes in the higher trims

Haulage is more gay cruising slang

So, let's just be clear here, if you were to choose your idea diesel car on the market today, a car that would represent diesel cars against all gas cars, it would be the diesel Cruze with manual transmission?

LOWS
Nobody-home steering feel, not cost effective, only for dedicated diesel nuts.

This is definitely no Cruze missile. With only 137 horsepower on tap, all the torque in the world won’t thrust a 3000-pound family sedan to the top of your gotta-have-it list.

To be fair

There's not many options

I mean what else is there?

also, while this might not necessarily be all that relevant

BMW 328d?

cars with diesel engines tend to need more maintenance than their petrol counterparts

I don't know why that is

Emissions equipment

Hypothesis: lack of availability of good diesel vehicles is a result of lack of capability by manufacturers to engineer good diesel vehicles.

Which, depending on where you are, you can just rip off.

I don't think so, they always have even before the jump to diesels

But there's plenty in Europe?

like I remember diesels back in the early 90s needing more attention than petrols

They just won't (or rather can't) bring them here.

though fewer people bought them

it was the late 90s and early 00s that europe really jumped on diesels

Like I said at the start, I get _why_ they don't bring them here.