aside from that, as far as I've seen the jaguar ipace is reviewing better than teslas

all those years of making losses and shitty cars on the back of taxpayers and dumb investors leads them to end up being on par with a british companys first attempt in the market

@LOGiK Also the 35k version is vaporware
They make way more money om the 50k version
So they oush it back as long they can make exclusively the more expensive models

they literally haven't sold one at 35k

it doesn't exist

and sure, that's exactly what I said, I don't think they can turn any profit on the 35k one so they exclusively sell upper models where there is profit

garbage company

People are fawning over the fact that current p100d cars take forever to depreciate.

They forget that most new teslas start out that way. Then people start relizing theyre shit

Also p100d is just 1 character away from p00d.

Incredibly childish revelation.

Still made me chuckle.

None have been sold at 35k, because the more options you add, the further up the list you go. Its pay for play with cars.

as I said,the likely rationale behind that is they announced a model price that was too low and can't actually sell it at that

no other manufacturer has an issue with supplying base models

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BAD AZZ

Beautiful Honda accord

My car is literally retarded

-40?

Its 96 degrees right now

I wish it were -40 here.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438695640239833088/476002007673602058/FB_IMG_1533549104112.jpg

xD

Interesting youtube comment on Tesla and their attempts to throw off the "dealership shackles," as it were.

"Building cars isn't nearly as big a problem for them as delivering them and servicing them. They thought that other automakers were pissing away a big chunk of markup by selling wholesale to franchised dealerships. They were wrong.

When Toyota dumps several million cars on dealerships at the beginning of the model year, they become the dealership's problem. The cars go on trucks that are filled to capacity and only going to one place, which is by far more efficient than delivering cars to customers one by one, straight from the factory (which also means that they have to be PDI'd at the factory), Toyota gets paid and aside from the end of the year when they offer incentives to move the last remaining models, they are free and clear of them.

When the warranty claims come (and Tesla has more than double the national average in both frequency and dollars, BTW), any dealership, anywhere can handle them, Toyota doesn't need to arrange transport for an entire car to some service center that might be a couple states away that Tesla both paid to build and pays to keep open. Toyota just has to pay the dealership for it's labor, reimburse them for parts they already sold to them at a markup, and that's it. Tesla's business model is fundamentally flawed, cars are not iPhones, and Elon still has yet to admit that to himself."

I'm not saying this is correct necessarily. But it's an angle I hadn't thought of previously.

Until now, I only thought that trying to break the stupid dealership requirements many states have was the one thing Tesla was doing right. I'm not convinced otherwise yet, but this is interesting.

do you like the idea of having your car needing to be ferried off to specialists?

my friend has a ferrari 812, he took delivery with the seat damaged and now has to wait 2 months for a specialist to come and repair it

now that's one thing for cars like ferrari

but do you really think it's gonna be a good plan for a daily use car?

Well no.

Which is why I am changing my mind on the matter after hearing this angle

Previously my main thoughts on the issue were of the price markup from having to buy the car from a third party, who in turn buys the car from the actual automaker.

But of course, duh, that's what retail stores do, too

And for the same reasons.