Message from @sexytortoiseloverboy

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2018-08-09 16:23:46 UTC  

And you think that the average consumer can honestly tell the difference between rebadged pickups

2018-08-09 16:24:38 UTC  

If badge engineering is what you call the Panther platform, then I'm not talking about badge engineering.

2018-08-09 16:26:05 UTC  

So you called me a dick because you're making overgeneralizations you can't justify based on a lack of understanding

2018-08-09 16:26:25 UTC  

No, I used the wrong term. I'm not the one being hostile here, dude...

2018-08-09 16:28:11 UTC  

What's it called when a foreign company steps into a market, and then takes a competitors vehicle, slaps a different bumper on it, and tries to pass it off as "competition" against the same vehicle?

2018-08-09 16:29:03 UTC  

Not joint venture vehicles, just complete mooching off the others production

2018-08-09 16:31:04 UTC  

Ok you're pretending to be retarded with that one

2018-08-09 16:32:44 UTC  

Its a serious question: What is the purpose behind the Suzuki Equator? It fools no one into thinking it's actually a Suzuki.

2018-08-09 16:33:10 UTC  

Practically no one bought them

2018-08-09 16:37:36 UTC  

Ok

2018-08-09 16:37:43 UTC  

You own Suzuki

2018-08-09 16:38:10 UTC  

You want to introduce a pickup truck to the market because people in North America like pickups

2018-08-09 16:39:00 UTC  

The problem is if you design a pickup for North America, and you're Suzuki, it will probably reflect the sales of your other vehicles.

2018-08-09 16:39:08 UTC  

So it's not worth the gamble

2018-08-09 16:39:32 UTC  

So you approach a company, say Nissan and offer a deal to rebadge one of their vehicles

2018-08-09 16:39:52 UTC  

Nissan finds it to be an acceptable deal and you have business

2018-08-09 16:40:37 UTC  

Now you aren't in the hole for engineering something, as suzuki, for a continent, that will probably sell like a Suzuki

2018-08-09 16:41:06 UTC  

The fact that X amount only sold doesn't matter

2018-08-09 16:41:20 UTC  

That's after the fact

2018-08-09 16:41:28 UTC  

But it's not your pickup, and the quality of Nissan's pickup gets placed on you.

Or, people see through your bullshit and just go buy the Nissan instead.

2018-08-09 16:41:33 UTC  

The average yokel probably doesn't know he's buying a Nissan

2018-08-09 16:41:58 UTC  

I'm pretty sure the average consumer is a bit more informed than that

2018-08-09 16:42:03 UTC  

Go ahead and tell the middle aged mom driving the infinity that she owns a Nissan

2018-08-09 16:42:22 UTC  

Infinity and Nissan are not a comparable example

2018-08-09 16:42:27 UTC  

They are

2018-08-09 16:42:36 UTC  

They're different markets

2018-08-09 16:42:40 UTC  

Luxury and entry

2018-08-09 16:42:43 UTC  

Rebadging comes in all different sizes

2018-08-09 16:42:59 UTC  

Suzuki and Nissan shared the same market

2018-08-09 16:43:16 UTC  

Not to mention the example of rebadging for brand loyalty

2018-08-09 16:43:25 UTC  

You weren't getting a 'better' product

2018-08-09 16:43:36 UTC  

I mean, you were getting a better product

2018-08-09 16:43:44 UTC  

You were getting a better suzuki

2018-08-09 16:44:00 UTC  

You had different prices and incentives on them

2018-08-09 16:45:22 UTC  

All of this seems like excessive overhead and logistics, just to place a bet that people would be tricked into not realizing their truck was made by someone else, who sells it for the same price or even cheaper

2018-08-09 16:45:31 UTC  

Well it is

2018-08-09 16:45:45 UTC  

Yes, that's why I don't get it.

2018-08-09 16:49:05 UTC  

It's probably safe to assume that in that specific vehicle instance Nissan was well covered in whatever the terms of the deal were and Suzuki was taking a risk

2018-08-09 16:49:54 UTC  

Suzuki most likely did this to get their name out there in the truck market

2018-08-09 16:49:57 UTC  

And it didn't work

2018-08-09 16:50:30 UTC  

And it was probably better they didn't try to design some truck for North America because they would have been assed out