Message from @Fitzydog

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2018-08-13 22:08:09 UTC  

People would sure be disappointed when they saw the new Vantage.

2018-08-13 22:08:17 UTC  

True, very true

2018-08-13 22:08:38 UTC  

I think the production mid-engined car will be way less exaggerated as far as the crazy wide rear fenders and massive intakes.

2018-08-13 22:09:21 UTC  

Yeah, for sure it will be some sort of poor man's, but not especially poor man's mid-engined supercar.

2018-08-13 22:09:43 UTC  

I feel like it's a bit of the NSX and Supra syndrome though.

2018-08-13 22:09:49 UTC  

Well, you know what I mean. The Corvette is the "poor mans Ferrari"

2018-08-13 22:10:26 UTC  

Something that has been rumored and promised for so long that expectations are incredibly high and almost anything will be a let down.

2018-08-13 22:11:03 UTC  

I know what you mean in theory, but in practice it would throw it into the worst selling price bracket that exists for performance cars.

2018-08-13 22:11:28 UTC  

What if they got in under 100k?

2018-08-13 22:12:59 UTC  

The no-man's land between 911 level pricing and Ferrari 488/Mclaren models where cars like the R8 and new NSX life is absolutely the worst place to position a car. It's above the point where a person who actually cares about value will consider them, and below the point of people who will actually choose a car because it's more expensive and exclusive.

2018-08-13 22:13:25 UTC  

Well if they get it under 100k it will be 55k cheaper than the current ZR1.

2018-08-13 22:13:44 UTC  

that wont happen

2018-08-13 22:13:50 UTC  

they will not undermine their own brand

2018-08-13 22:14:44 UTC  

If they did they couldn't even market it as the ultimate Corvette in any buyer's mind because it would be perceived as "less" than models they have already positioned at a much higher price.

2018-08-13 22:14:53 UTC  

look at it this way; if you're a chevrolet buyer and you love chevy, you own a zr1 and paid 155k for it, okay you got a discount since loyal customer and got it for 130, and the new mid engined vette comes out at say 98k

2018-08-13 22:14:55 UTC  

you are pissed

2018-08-13 22:15:28 UTC  

because your zr1 suddenly deflates in value, meanwhile a new product is in some way vastly superior

2018-08-13 22:15:35 UTC  

What's the entry level Corvette cost?

2018-08-13 22:16:13 UTC  

Around 66k these days.

2018-08-13 22:16:15 UTC  

~60k for the absolute base I think

2018-08-13 22:16:46 UTC  

So what if an entry level version of this mid-engin Corvette sold for $89k?

2018-08-13 22:17:05 UTC  

you want a porsche for that money

2018-08-13 22:17:40 UTC  

I'm JUST SAYING, they could be a price leader in the segment

2018-08-13 22:17:48 UTC  

I mean I could see the entry level of the mid-engined one getting in below 100k, but whatever model that is will not be the hero poor man's supercar that's gonna beat the 488 in a comparison test. .

2018-08-13 22:17:55 UTC  

Well it wouldn't be, the 911 is cheaper than that.

2018-08-13 22:18:01 UTC  

Of course not

2018-08-13 22:18:52 UTC  

I'm willing to bet there will be people that just say "I want a mid engined corvette", for the sake of what it is

2018-08-13 22:19:13 UTC  

Yeah there will, but will those people want the lowest performance version of it?

2018-08-13 22:19:31 UTC  

You could say the same about the Corvette now

2018-08-13 22:19:47 UTC  

I honestly think they missed the boat on this, and should have done it decades ago and established the model when there was list stiff competition.

2018-08-13 22:19:56 UTC  

Yes

2018-08-13 22:21:13 UTC  

Well no you couldn't because right now the base Corvette is actually a relative "bargain" for the performance and engineering you get. There's really nothing else quite like that in the 60k range.

2018-08-13 22:21:55 UTC  

If you lose that, it's not suddenly a good alternative to the 911 because it's much cheaper, it has to actually be outright better in all areas because it's the same price.

2018-08-13 22:22:17 UTC  

idk if a 911 would be a competitor

2018-08-13 22:23:05 UTC  

It'd be punching above its weight most likely, and is heavier with higher displacement

2018-08-13 22:23:23 UTC  

well, I take that back, maybe it wouldn't be heavier...

2018-08-13 22:24:01 UTC  

Well if it were heavier than the 911 it would be an even harder sell because the 911 is a 4 seat car with a steel chassis.

2018-08-13 22:24:15 UTC  

Right, that's what I thought...

2018-08-13 22:25:22 UTC  

Anyway, this is all wild speculation, I hope it's a great success, but I still say that the peak time to introduce something like this would have been back in the late 90s where it would have been possible to sell it at a reasonable price and it would have been thrown right into the mix of top sports cars.

2018-08-13 22:27:43 UTC  

Also would not be surprised if entry level smallest displacement one has some kind of low pressure twin turbo powerplant with the way things are headed.

2018-08-13 22:40:48 UTC  

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