Message from @wdt15

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2018-07-27 17:02:11 UTC  

was he shot in the head a few times?

Imagine this

get shot through the eye

2018-07-27 17:13:28 UTC  

accurate or nah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/472451472768892948/yeahornah.png

2018-07-27 17:31:16 UTC  

:I

2018-07-27 17:34:36 UTC  

Well I wouldn't imagine TX is terribly different than my state, so it sounds accurate to me.

2018-07-27 17:47:13 UTC  

@wdt15 you should be posting all that in here <:high_iq:382980759012638731>

2018-07-27 17:56:58 UTC  

jesus, one sec

2018-07-27 17:58:04 UTC  

you do need training to carry. They just lowered the cost but when I did it was $400, was 12 hours long (took a day and a half to complete), then you had to mail your info off to the state with another $200 and wait about 3 months to have your license mailed to you.
we do not have a limit on mag capacity or what caliber you can own as long as it doesn't fall under the purview of the ATF.
we may have a stand your ground and castle law but it comes with a lot of nuances. You can't just shoot someone for being on your property, unless it's night time, they are in the process of some illegal act OTHER THAN tresspassing, and they have to be on your curtilage (or the area of land you maintain).
they can't just be out in the back pasture walking around.
you can't just shoot someone for that
DO NOT EVER fire a warning shot
that is right out
now you may get off of any criminal charges if you do happen to kill someone without meeting these requirements but you'll die lonely and poor when it comes to the civil case.
keep in mind we have a lot of archaic, racially derived, laws that are still on the books and are enforced. a lot of our gun and knife laws make zero sense and contradict other laws and that's why cops arrest some people for violations and some cops don't
edit: recently the training has been simplified and greatly reduced in price since it really offered no real training, and it was basically a glorified safety course. but you still have to wait a noticible amount of time to receive your license

2018-07-27 18:00:32 UTC  

edit: however, not everyone can just go to the local walmart and buy an AR15. there is still a federal background check done, you have to present a valid form of picture ID, and you have to be a resident of the state and provide proof of it.
edit: the 'gunshow loophole' is a made up myth. almost everyone that has a booth at a gunshow is a licensed FFL holder and any guns bought or sold go on their books and require government paperwork to be completed. and any individual to individual sale done on the floor of the gunshow will almost always go through a dealer since they are right there anyway and have access to the paperwork. (this doesn't mean that the guys couldn't just go out into the parking lot and buy/trade the guns there BUT nearly every legal gun owner isn't going to let his rifle go to the gentleman with face tats, chains, and bright colors. he will refuse to sell.

2018-07-27 18:22:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/472468841163653139/zoop_de_noot.png

2018-07-27 18:25:01 UTC  

I can attest that none of this is enforced in Alaska.

Buying guns off Craigslist from the back of some guys pickup was completely normal, no permits for anything really, and I think there's 'castle laws', or there's precedent to do similarly at least.

2018-07-27 18:26:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/472469772135825448/zoot_de_noot.png

2018-07-27 18:26:42 UTC  

seems legit

2018-07-27 18:29:14 UTC  

@Reaps where are you having this conversation? the warning shot thing is ridiculous and was some crap hollywood came up with. Whoever is advising this man needs to look at a few case studies involving warning shots and how it looked to a jury.

2018-07-27 18:29:46 UTC  

@wdt15 He said his sheriff directed him to do so

2018-07-27 18:30:23 UTC  

So... take what you will from that lol

old man sheriff

2018-07-27 18:31:22 UTC  

his sheriff is an elected official and an idiot. any cursory internet search about firing warning shots will tell you that doing so can indeed land you in hot water and at the very least its reckless and dangerous

2018-07-27 18:31:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/472471129156616204/download.jpg

2018-07-27 18:31:40 UTC  

exactly!

2018-07-27 18:32:35 UTC  

lol that's good to know though. If some guy were hopping my gate 80yards down the driveway and couldn't hear me yelling at him, I'd have fired a warning shot myslef

2018-07-27 18:32:44 UTC  

from a quick google search:

Can you shoot someone in Texas who is on your property?
It's important to realize that you can't use force on others for a simple act of trespassing. To shoot in Texas, you must fear for your safety when someone is breaking in or attempting to break in to your home, occupied vehicle, or workplace.Jul 14, 2016

2018-07-27 18:32:51 UTC  

Reminds me of this story, actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2wWktUH71I

2018-07-27 18:33:05 UTC  

Also:

Is it illegal to fire a warning shot?
Do not fire warning shots. It is generally not legal to discharge a firearm in most incorporated areas unless your life is in danger. Discharging a firearm at somebody who is not putting your life in danger as a β€œwarning” is reckless. Discharging a firearm into the air as a warning is also dangerous and often illegal.

2018-07-27 18:33:23 UTC  

the second part of that answer will apply to him

2018-07-27 18:33:25 UTC  

Oh psh!!!

2018-07-27 18:33:32 UTC  

That's not relevant

2018-07-27 18:33:46 UTC  

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The defence rests, your honour

2018-07-27 18:34:12 UTC  

Paul Harrel is a god and that video has a lot of good info.

2018-07-27 18:34:27 UTC  

Yeah, of course firing a gun in the air in an Incorporated area where it's illegal would get you in trouble

2018-07-27 18:35:09 UTC  

If you're UNincorporated though and it's your property, then it's legal to shoot in the air? Maybe it's legal then?

2018-07-27 18:37:24 UTC  

in Texas, it is not legal to fire a bullet over a public road or outside your property. (or outside of the property you have permission to be on) you are responsible for that round and any damages it does beyond your property

2018-07-27 18:38:13 UTC  

if you're lucky enough to have enough land to contain a rifle round then congratulations you are a very rich person. either that or you bought an old garbage dump

2018-07-27 18:40:21 UTC  

that's where the 4 rules of gun safety come into play and what's neat about them is that you have to break 2 of them in order to have a 'bad time'

2018-07-27 18:41:03 UTC  

so, if a court of law finds out that you were being negligent with a gun prior to shooting someone (IE a warning shot) how do you think that will look to a jury?

2018-07-27 18:41:34 UTC  

it won't be good, i can tell you that

2018-07-27 18:42:03 UTC  

and at the very least you'll be stuck with a defense lawyer's bill and good ones are not cheap

2018-07-27 18:42:32 UTC  

I get what you're saying, I'm just arguing the point that the "warning shot" isn't illegal per se

2018-07-27 18:42:56 UTC  

Seems about time to repost these two