Message from @Mal
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Not even Ben Shapiro?
on certain issues, certainly, but I find that others provide similar views without having to be reminded of his religious views time and again
so I don't really see much of a point
I'm happy to support him when he's speaking sense, which is more often than not
Ben doesn't really invoke religion much. Most of his arguments are purely secular, he adds a religious perspective here and there, but it's rare for his arguments to rely purely on religion.
it's true that he doesn't, but it seeps in there, and I am a heavy fedora-tipper when it comes to religion. It just gets on my nerves, and for something I consider an enjoyable pastime, youtube videos, I really don't need the depressing reminder of religion's existence popping up again and again.
Same with Crowder, one of the Change My Mind was on abortion, he didn't appeal to religion even once.
Steven "most of you deserve to go to hell anyway" Crowder.
did he change your mind on abortion, though? assuming you weren't against it to begin with
takes some edge to make a statement like that, lol
or perhaps it's just more of that odd humor I don't get
Change My Mind videos are videos where he goes out, usually to a university, and sits down to talk and argue about a specific topic to whoever wants to have the conversation.
I watched one where he went out and talked to feminists, I think
stopped watching when some annoying harpy was on, iirc
Crowder is a Catholic. That was his response to "why aren't you trying to convert people?"
not crowder's fault, obviously
so he's not the kind of catholic that thinks you just have to ask for forgiveness from god to receive it?
He is.
so he's lazy, or lacks compassion?
He just doesn't feel guilty that people reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
if I was convinced most people would go to hell, and that they could be saved if I managed to convince them to embrace jesus, I would spend most of my time attempting to do just that
Why is it your duty to save people?
it's not my duty, but I would feel compelled to do it
Why don't you spend most of your time telling people to not eat carbohydrates and junk food? That's bad for them.
I could not sit idly by if I knew loved ones, or friends were being condemned to burn in hell for eternity
Then again, most Catholics don't know apologetics.
because I don't consider elevated risk of heart disease and diabetes to be equal to an eternity of burning
IIRC the jury is still out in the Catholic perspective on Hell as a place of eternal damnation. More of one of those pop cultural osmosis things in the wake of Dante's Divine Comedy
the jury is out on everything in christianity
it's nonsense, that has spawned a multitude of ridiculous "heresies" that the catholic church has no power to stamp out anymore
crowder's beliefs are just as valid as any other christian's
It's nonsense only if you decide to not pay attention to what it's written.
in that they are superstition, and thus only "valid" in their own minds
Go clean your room. And watch JBP's biblical lectures.
Not dank
ah yes, but who are you to say that what is written is to be interpreted strictly, and not metaphorically?
checkmate apologists
Oh, we got a postmodersnist here.
"There are an infinite number of interpretations, so none of them is valid."
they are equally valid, relative to the individual who holds them
You interpret it in any all the ways you can, and then decide which ones provide you with anything useful.