Message from Jek Porkins in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #politics-free-for-all
and i guess that's the problem here
No value judgments need come from it necessarily
Is vs Ought anyone?
The issues with race realism seem to be policy implications etc
oh, got it
never heard it like this before
Irrelevant to the truth of the observation of racial differences
That's pretty much where the arguments about race realism come from.
How is that the same thing as white nationalism? (Ought)
Depends on what kind of white nationalist you're talking about
The whitish nationalist-ish kind
There's the "keep white nations white via implying the law and kicking out illegal non-white" white nationalists and the "Ethno state" white nationalists.
Neither of those necessarily follows race realism
And I don't see the distinction really
But race realism can lead to it
It's a half step
Slippery slope huh?
not saying it's true for every race-realist though
Well can we recognize that we are intelligent adults who won't automatically fall down that slope?
So we can actually acknowledge reality
Intelligent adults? Nowadays?
Yes, you can
So conflating race realism with ethnonationalism is unproductive
It only fuels extremism on both sides
And i will admit, I am guilty of conflating these at one point
> They're the same thing, imo
@BrianBoru i guess everyone here knows that race exists and that some difference between then exists.
What we are talking about is the crowd that go, "blacks are genetically inferior" and etc
Then we are all race realists
Race realism =/= racial supremacy
the term race realist is used to describe a individual who tend to impose their bullshit on others, those individuals tend to be white supremacists
Black people are more susceptible to sickle cell anemia.
That use is a bullshit loading of the term
Poisoning the well
it's not bullshit