Message from @DanielKO
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Everywhere where a wall was used to secure the border, or even just a fence, it has worked.
I really think the wall needs to be more metaphorical than literal. Put enough active pressure on the cartels and they will either back off or escalate matters
To debate the effectiveness of a wall is ridiculous
How would a metaphorical wall stop them?
By metaphorical i mean patrols
So you don't think the cartels won't tunnel under?
Active measures
That's even more expensive.
.... WE HAVE THAT
And yes, we increased funding.
Its currently hobbled tho
Tunneling, or climbing over it, it's slower, riskier.
why not just have a wall of artillery fire?
Because sometimes people do stupid shit, but they shouldn't be killed for doing stupid shit.
Tunneling in a focused spot is much easier to deal with than random route across the desert hundreds of miles apart
If your calling for arty you might as well go full chaotic evil and mine the border. No thank you.
yep
Put up a sign, "mined field."
Just the sign, nothing else.
Because that much explosives is way too much.
you obviously have to have some mines
just don't say where.....
I'm again, not going to kill people for making dumb choices.
Now if they murder someone, different story.
You could put up the sign put up a layer out mines with baby powder then the mines after.
If your going that route
I would rather not?
Breaking the law of a foreign nation and disregarding their border is not a 'dumb mistake'. It's a calulated decision.
It is not worth capital punishment/war-level violence.
No matter how much you claim it is.
then build a wall
That's the idea.
For me it is. Why else do we have a nation if not to defend its borders?
A very regressive stance, in my opinion.
If you can define regressive/progressive, I may concede
Defend the borders, yes, kill people crossing the border, no.
One of these is no longer societially acceptable, where it may have been decades ago.
Which is regressive.
why not encourage them to stop coming?