Message from @🅱iet 🅱eepsi

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2018-07-03 15:10:08 UTC  

He makes very few arguments that are worth listening to, and his audience seems to be mostly people who want to watch him "pwn" people with even worse arguments than he himself brings to the table, namely SJW's and similar people.

2018-07-03 15:35:57 UTC  

He's incredibly entertaining when he actually brings something of value to the table. He does so rarely.

2018-07-03 15:37:31 UTC  

shapiro is the normiest of normie content

2018-07-03 15:37:47 UTC  

the amount of shapiro owns sjw compilations I've been sent by politically illiterate normies is staggering

2018-07-03 15:40:32 UTC  

The godly emperor ben shapiro totally destroys a sjw libtard in an EPIC, DESTRUCTIVE fashion ANNIHILATING him in seconds

2018-07-03 15:40:47 UTC  

For once I agree with the socdem

2018-07-03 15:40:51 UTC  

This cannot be

2018-07-03 15:41:21 UTC  

But yeah, Shapiro is the most overrated political thing on YouTube

2018-07-03 16:12:53 UTC  

Well

2018-07-03 16:12:58 UTC  

Its microseconds

2018-07-03 16:13:11 UTC  

You know how fast he talks, right?

2018-07-03 16:18:11 UTC  

The party called ”Vänstern” (left side) had their partytalk dedicated to shittalk SD. Lmao.

2018-07-03 16:19:56 UTC  

that's how you win votes!

2018-07-03 16:20:06 UTC  

fling that dirt, so easy

2018-07-03 16:21:07 UTC  

addressing relevant issues? Hah!

2018-07-03 16:21:46 UTC  

The party members look exactly like how you would guess

2018-07-03 16:33:34 UTC  

It's rare for Shapiro to bring up his jewness into an argument.

2018-07-03 16:59:09 UTC  

I've seen him take on quite a few large leftist politicians before. He's definitely not bad. He's also incredibly smart. Cum Laude at Harvard and been on TV for his violin playing at like 12.

2018-07-03 16:59:44 UTC  

Don't agree with him on everything, but yeah.

2018-07-03 16:59:54 UTC  

Obviously he's going to have a bias to Israel.

2018-07-03 17:04:38 UTC  

Ben also thinks like a trad theist, he's stated in the past that he thinks atheistic or agnostic people are more likely to be immoral simply because of their lack of faith<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-07-03 17:06:30 UTC  

I mean, it's not entirely unfounded. It's easier to lie to yourself than it is to lie to someone else, more or less.

2018-07-03 17:08:00 UTC  

When you feel like you can't steal because a god is always watching rather than if you steal and don't get caught, then you're without punishment.

2018-07-03 17:09:37 UTC  

Whereas if you have those types of belief systems, if you steal, caught or not, you're always caught.

2018-07-03 17:10:46 UTC  

So I can see the logic in that statement.

2018-07-03 17:15:16 UTC  

yeah ben is a cuck.<:pepe_sad:378719408345841664>

2018-07-03 17:16:08 UTC  

Remember, generalized statements like that based upon logic usually aren't attacks at you in particular.

2018-07-03 17:17:40 UTC  

it's nice how he thinks that atheists and agnostics are more likely to be immoral, despite studies that show evidence to the contrary. I wonder if he justifies this by going the Peterson route by claiming those people aren't really atheists <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-07-03 17:21:02 UTC  

Agnostic folks generally aren't considered atheist. There is a reason these are two different terms.

2018-07-03 17:21:31 UTC  

And to be fair, and not to sound rude: there are far more pressing things to worry about and people to bitch about than someone that agrees with you on the majority of things wrong in society today, but has a bit of a religious tint to his activism.

2018-07-03 17:21:58 UTC  

Who said anything about them being the same, though?

2018-07-03 17:24:22 UTC  

Well considering what you said, about a study regarding athiests AND agnostics, and then about Peterson saying something about people not being atheist, that's the only thing I could think of to bring up that would follow the logic I see outright.

2018-07-03 17:25:34 UTC  

I do not recall off the top of my hat if people who said they believed in some kind of spirit or life force of the universe, were lumped in with atheists, in the studies that showed differences in moral behavior between them and religious people

2018-07-03 17:26:01 UTC  

Agnostics basically are indecisive, atheists are confident.

2018-07-03 17:26:55 UTC  

that's not the distinction I generally see

2018-07-03 17:26:59 UTC  

I think it'd be easier to seperate into groups those who believe in objective morality/ethics, and those who don't.

2018-07-03 17:27:15 UTC  

it's usually agnostic atheism vs gnostic atheism

2018-07-03 17:27:35 UTC  

and the people who say they believe in some kind of life force or spirit, are really just some kind of new age spiritualist

2018-07-03 17:27:55 UTC  

I also don't consider the majority of self-proclaimed Christians to be Christian. 70% of America identifies as Christian, and I can guarantee there aren't nearly enough Churches for that many actual Christians.

2018-07-03 17:28:28 UTC  

so you decide who is christian and who isn't? I generally tend to take people's word for it, if they say they're christian

2018-07-03 17:28:43 UTC  

is a christian someone who goes to church every week?