Message from @Dwarforn

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2018-07-04 23:30:19 UTC  

Dumb ass

2018-07-04 23:30:20 UTC  

it's in Book 2 of the gospel of hyde

2018-07-04 23:36:51 UTC  

@DanConway Church never got Biology wrong, and they sponsored marital relationships built on mutal love...then again, Americans are addicted to divorce and they did have shotgun marriages

2018-07-04 23:38:12 UTC  

I agree

2018-07-04 23:38:29 UTC  

It is just a compelling argument for some people as a way of looking at it

2018-07-04 23:38:52 UTC  

*Shotgun Marriages* were symptom of another issue

2018-07-04 23:39:36 UTC  

i dont think they were a huge issue

2018-07-04 23:39:47 UTC  

at least the kids had two parents

2018-07-04 23:40:47 UTC  

No the marriages werent an issue (least not at conception) but it was a bandaid on the unprotected sex issue

2018-07-04 23:41:02 UTC  

If you take the risk of sexual intercourse the end result of that action is children

2018-07-04 23:41:24 UTC  

we have a much bigger problem now of single parent households

2018-07-04 23:42:09 UTC  

That mindset helped lead to the normalization of abortion

2018-07-04 23:42:24 UTC  

*Babies are another std risk*

2018-07-04 23:42:28 UTC  

yeah, because they're breaking the vows of commitment and not following the church's teachings

2018-07-04 23:43:01 UTC  

As a non christian i disagree with the *vows of the church* thing

2018-07-04 23:43:14 UTC  

especially since the tradition predates said church

2018-07-04 23:43:36 UTC  

The church was the first to care about the consent of the women in the case of maariage

2018-07-04 23:43:41 UTC  

wrong

2018-07-04 23:43:44 UTC  

No

2018-07-04 23:43:49 UTC  

Tha

2018-07-04 23:43:50 UTC  

what do you mean? Jeudochristianity invented monogamous marriage

2018-07-04 23:43:57 UTC  

Handfasting in norse, celt, and otherwise

2018-07-04 23:43:59 UTC  

Mutual consent was a Catholic tradition

2018-07-04 23:44:09 UTC  

Wrong

2018-07-04 23:44:18 UTC  

Catholicism had arranged marriages

2018-07-04 23:44:19 UTC  

you cant just say wrong

2018-07-04 23:44:22 UTC  

and no

2018-07-04 23:44:28 UTC  

Yes they did lol

2018-07-04 23:44:43 UTC  

The catholic church refused to allow non mutually consenting marriages

2018-07-04 23:44:58 UTC  

*'consent'*

2018-07-04 23:44:59 UTC  

The middle ages was filled with arranged marriages to obtain land and status

2018-07-04 23:45:01 UTC  

There are numerous historical examples of this

2018-07-04 23:45:14 UTC  

that didnt mean they were condoned by the scriptures

2018-07-04 23:45:52 UTC  

those were family arrangements

2018-07-04 23:46:02 UTC  

The first consenting of women in marriages was handfasting of the northern european religions. The women had the right to choose and even divorce

2018-07-04 23:46:11 UTC  

Just because people conducted those actions does not mean the catholic church recognized those pagan behaviors

2018-07-04 23:46:27 UTC  

Catholicism had a loose *concent* as a woman wouldnt disobey the family

2018-07-04 23:46:28 UTC  

Who cares what is traditional or not. Is it a net positive?

2018-07-04 23:46:39 UTC  

yes

2018-07-04 23:46:46 UTC  

Tradition is based on what worked

2018-07-04 23:46:58 UTC  

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