Message from @Mal

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2018-07-16 00:38:45 UTC  

Whats the point of voting if the opposite will happen?

2018-07-16 00:38:58 UTC  

It would be like everyone voting Tori and the Labor gets it

2018-07-16 00:39:04 UTC  

it is a representative democracy, not a direct one.

2018-07-16 00:39:12 UTC  

it's a republic

2018-07-16 00:39:19 UTC  

basically

2018-07-16 00:39:32 UTC  

Representative democracies still represent the people

2018-07-16 00:39:41 UTC  

you just said they didn't

2018-07-16 00:39:45 UTC  

republicanism is a beautiful thing

2018-07-16 00:39:47 UTC  

Yes they do

2018-07-16 00:40:26 UTC  

Its stupid to think it doesn't. In the US the Majority vote in each state goes to the president voted. Then the majority of state votes make the president

2018-07-16 00:40:40 UTC  

A Repesentative Constitutional Republic

2018-07-16 00:40:46 UTC  

so how exactly are people ignored, when they voted for a representative?

2018-07-16 00:41:03 UTC  

It would be like Clinton winning the Presidency

2018-07-16 00:41:10 UTC  

With the least state votes

2018-07-16 00:41:28 UTC  

That ignores how people want to vote, ergo making voting pointless

2018-07-16 00:41:38 UTC  

that representative takes into consideration the wishes of his voters when pointing out a PM

2018-07-16 00:41:38 UTC  

Because the opposite would happen

2018-07-16 00:42:31 UTC  

I can tell you now. If a representative of an opposite party gives no shits about what the opposite party voters say

2018-07-16 00:42:48 UTC  

then they will not be elected by the same people the next time they have to run for office

2018-07-16 00:42:56 UTC  

But the losers win

2018-07-16 00:43:05 UTC  

that is most often suicide for a political career and why it rarely happens

2018-07-16 00:43:43 UTC  

"where minority governments can rule" If its a minority government, they didn't win the vote. Ergo what do they care? They will still win with even less votes

2018-07-16 00:44:06 UTC  

they won the vote because the opposition cannot agree on a common policy direction

2018-07-16 00:44:30 UTC  

this is a multi party system unlike what is possible in the united states

2018-07-16 00:44:38 UTC  

If they came out with fewer votes they lost

2018-07-16 00:44:45 UTC  

No mater the "Number of parties"

2018-07-16 00:45:00 UTC  

the opposition has the opportunity to overthrow the minority government, but then they have to agree on a common direction

2018-07-16 00:45:22 UTC  

if people wished for a common direction, they would not vote for parties that cannot agree

2018-07-16 00:45:26 UTC  

If 1 party gets the majority of votes, how is that not winning with a common direction.

2018-07-16 00:46:01 UTC  

Wait, taking this from the direction they are actually voting for a PM, they arn't. They get not say in the long run.

2018-07-16 00:46:01 UTC  

one party almost never does in situations where negative parliamentarism holds

2018-07-16 00:46:15 UTC  

I think it has happened exactly once in the history of Denmark, for example

2018-07-16 00:46:45 UTC  

Hence why Seperation of Powers is important. *Shrugs*

2018-07-16 00:57:37 UTC  

r/woosh

2018-07-16 01:01:41 UTC  

@Mal so negative parliamentarism is the reason why scanavian countries don't have a majority ruling coaltion?

2018-07-16 01:41:28 UTC  

Is UKIP generally considered to be a fringe party? What has been their historical election odds?

2018-07-16 01:51:07 UTC  

MP wise? Not good at all

2018-07-16 01:57:37 UTC  

Yea they are the equivalent of the Independent party of the US. A couple people here or there, but never any real ground

2018-07-16 02:36:22 UTC  

Godspeed to them honestly.

2018-07-16 02:37:29 UTC  

I am really clueless on British politics but sargon's latest videos are pretty enlightening regarding the general dissolution of Brittain

2018-07-16 02:37:35 UTC  

The way the UK is going these days, it seems unlikely they'll ever gain ground