Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2018-08-03 22:12:28 UTC  

ICE? an example off the top of my head of america

2018-08-03 22:12:43 UTC  

IDRK im not american

2018-08-03 22:12:44 UTC  

Border patrol?

2018-08-03 22:12:56 UTC  

Yes i guess so

2018-08-03 22:13:40 UTC  

So would you agree with the Saga period icelandic model of libertarianism where laws were decided by the state but they would needed to be enforced privately?

2018-08-03 22:14:06 UTC  

idk what that is, but sure. Common law, and common defense.

2018-08-03 22:14:26 UTC  

so a legislative branch only and border patrol?

2018-08-03 22:14:45 UTC  

Why even have a branch? Seriously?

2018-08-03 22:14:55 UTC  

just a placeholder

2018-08-03 22:15:28 UTC  

Why would you want a state to have a monopoly over these services?

2018-08-03 22:16:45 UTC  

Because then someone else could arbitrarily institute strange laws where they see fit, or hold parties accountable more stringently than others.

It'd turn into a codified 'one law for you, one for me'

2018-08-03 22:17:05 UTC  

People would have to deal with multiple law codes for different circumstances

2018-08-03 22:17:33 UTC  

I can understand that, as well as border patrol

2018-08-03 22:17:42 UTC  

How would they be funded?

2018-08-03 22:18:26 UTC  

It's like asking "Why should a culture have a monopoly on language?"

What's to fund? It's a document. Who funds the constitution?

2018-08-03 22:19:04 UTC  

No i meant border patrol, also would the law makers not want salaries?

2018-08-03 22:21:00 UTC  

There's never a need to create new laws. It's just a bureaucratic cesspit of self-interest. Also, local ordinances are still a thing.

Border patrol is a completely voluntary force. The monopoly on force at the border is held in-common.

2018-08-03 22:22:33 UTC  

Ok agreed

2018-08-03 22:22:36 UTC  

good talk

2018-08-03 22:22:43 UTC  

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2018-08-03 23:52:58 UTC  

Border Patrol and the Military is Voluntary, but a salary is needed to keep them, and keep loyalty and prevent fraud.

As well, the 'Government protects property rights'. That incudes cops. Because you can defend your own, but what about when you are at work? Cops are there to aid with burglaries as well. And yes, Cops would want a salary as well.

2018-08-03 23:53:47 UTC  

The NAP is a fallacy, that is devoid of human nature. Just as Communism is.

2018-08-03 23:54:35 UTC  

Oh, this applies to federal governments only. You can keep your local cops, guaranteed.

2018-08-03 23:56:50 UTC  

And the NAP isn't a 'law' or any sort of 'legalism', it's a political philosophy that you apply to things.

2018-08-03 23:58:30 UTC  

It's step 1 in forming any policy:

"If I do X, am I aggressing against someone else? If so, how can I adjust my actions to prevent that?"

2018-08-03 23:59:58 UTC  

The NAP is a logical extension of Liberalism and Natural Rights.

2018-08-04 00:01:33 UTC  

My dick Will extend inyo ass

2018-08-04 00:02:24 UTC  

Good luck jamming it in there first

2018-08-04 00:04:23 UTC  

nice

2018-08-04 00:04:49 UTC  

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2018-08-04 00:06:06 UTC  

Jordan joining too?

2018-08-04 00:06:10 UTC  

Nicer

2018-08-04 00:24:06 UTC  

Only issue is NAP ignores human nature. In the ANcapian form without a government/cops/ect. Human nature says, "Will it harm someone, probably. Do I want/need that item for survival. Yes. Fuck it."

2018-08-04 00:24:15 UTC  

Or just to 'have' more

2018-08-04 00:24:33 UTC  

No one disagrees with you

2018-08-04 00:25:28 UTC  

It's not supposed to mimic human nature. Why would it? It's a *principle*.

2018-08-04 00:27:40 UTC  

Anti-racism ignores human nature. Should we dispose of that?

2018-08-04 00:36:48 UTC  

I'm anti-identitarian.

2018-08-04 00:36:58 UTC  

And I'm pretty sure most are here as well.

2018-08-04 00:38:35 UTC  

i like making distinctions