Message from @Capitán Alatriste

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2018-08-09 01:54:03 UTC  

Also how can this work if it not global?

2018-08-09 01:54:28 UTC  

The first settlements still moved or sent out long range hunters

2018-08-09 01:54:48 UTC  

Hunter gatherers had less famine than first agricultural societys

2018-08-09 01:54:54 UTC  

From what i have seen

2018-08-09 01:55:14 UTC  

By the time of thr first settlements hunter gatherer society had come to an end

2018-08-09 01:55:16 UTC  

Hell we dont even know how many settlements were simply abandoned due to scarcity

2018-08-09 01:55:29 UTC  

Um no.

2018-08-09 01:55:31 UTC  

This is not truw

2018-08-09 01:55:42 UTC  

We still have hunter gatherers today

2018-08-09 01:56:01 UTC  

But do they have permament settlements?

2018-08-09 01:56:14 UTC  

We have permanent settlements

2018-08-09 01:56:24 UTC  

Bedowins and tribesmen still mived around. Some would have perm settlements while others moved and traded with the perms

2018-08-09 01:56:51 UTC  

The first settlements didnt end hunt and gather. just expanded the gatherer so to speak

2018-08-09 01:56:55 UTC  

By the time a society reaches the point of a permanent settlement, you stop becoming a hunter gatherer society.

2018-08-09 01:57:13 UTC  

Of course Other societies still need to catch up

2018-08-09 01:57:19 UTC  

That came much later however

2018-08-09 01:57:29 UTC  

But this is besides the point

2018-08-09 01:57:40 UTC  

No that was your point

2018-08-09 01:57:50 UTC  

*when the first*

2018-08-09 01:57:55 UTC  

It wan example

2018-08-09 01:58:03 UTC  

Didnt want to delve too much into it

2018-08-09 01:58:09 UTC  

And again tons of those settlements were abandoned

2018-08-09 01:58:30 UTC  

Innovation mainly came from the currency of trade of knowledge

2018-08-09 01:58:45 UTC  

But that does not answer how it can be done if the global revolution never happens

2018-08-09 01:59:05 UTC  

The coutries that do not have revolution will just win.

2018-08-09 01:59:08 UTC  

Again

2018-08-09 01:59:12 UTC  

or without a huge drop in standard of living

2018-08-09 01:59:35 UTC  

Or from the need of wartime innovation

2018-08-09 01:59:39 UTC  

and near stop in innovation like medicine.

2018-08-09 01:59:49 UTC  

Not in the US

2018-08-09 01:59:58 UTC  

A need for another train track comes mostly by the need to have to transport more goods along it because it is reaching a point of inefficiency (consumption of fuel, carts and goods sent)

2018-08-09 02:00:15 UTC  

this was a huge issue in the soviet union

2018-08-09 02:00:20 UTC  

Since the overwhelming majority of that is private industry.

2018-08-09 02:00:23 UTC  

And china

2018-08-09 02:00:48 UTC  

They where reall inefficient at laying track that would bring resources where they needed to go

2018-08-09 02:01:42 UTC  

hell still are in places like laos, and cambodia

2018-08-09 02:01:45 UTC  

Nvm @Goblin_Slayer_Floki i misunderstood you

2018-08-09 02:01:53 UTC  

Of course but take into account the incredible difficult russian environement.

2018-08-09 02:02:28 UTC  

Yes but they have no indicators for how to efficently move and allocate resourses

2018-08-09 02:02:35 UTC  

Sobthey had a lot of waste

2018-08-09 02:02:42 UTC  

Production is a good indicator