Not untill somebody blew up their castles they weren't

Little shit ruined out marvels of fortification with barrels of gunpowder

Is it not a standard tactic to force a langiuage on people you conquer anyway, many regions of the world no longer speak their native languages due to this, spanish, portugese, english, french, russian languages are the main language of many countries where they would not be 'native'.

And i guess that removing a language by forcing trade and official communication in a standard language (eq the conquerors) is a great way to destroy local cultures and make people feel less local and make it easier to assimilate the people.

Yes, because by forcing your language, culture, religion and law you slowly destroy the previous ones, and hence destroy their national identity in order to adopt yours. By doing so the conquered generation won't integrate properly, but the coming ones who will be born under the new leadership will be educated and brought up with it, therefore not opposing the government

Interesting insight, in a silly little country like The Netherlands i can count like 6 different languages, where only two are recognized officially now and that was also a recent thing. On a small scale most languages have now faded into what we call a dialect, and as mentioned earlier only the old people really know the languages from before. There were some efforts to get some recognized as a language like 10 years ago butthat never went anywhere.

If only Guy Fawkes succeeded

The Dutch don't even speak their own language anymore. It's just English these days...

Was there a larger group behind him though, i mean sure you can cripple a government, but would that enact any change if some other people would just swoop in and reform a government like two days after?

It would send shockwaves. The government after it was just as responsible for disaster

Yes, dutch isnot favored in international trade, and we also never dubbed and have horrible media, so most movies, songs and tv shows are in american/english. Youngsters have grown up with LA slang since the 80's. The official language council also has adopted a 'loandword' system where new words added to the language are not reformed to a local form. But that was a thing since Napoleon, as a good portion of dutch is just wierdly spoken french anyway.

SAD!

In belgium the flemish have many words that they duchified, but that is often mocked as backwards. Then again the dutch government has been very international since after ww2

It is surprising esparanto is not a forced track in schools 😛

Being "international" is a dog whistle for being cucked faggots

well okay then

Yup, the dutch gov has been at the forefront of everything europe federation coolio stuff since the beginning. We have had two referendums on europe stuff where the people voted no, and politicials said voting no would bring ww3. Then they just ignored the vote and did it anyway.

Could have solved that with some guns

the people cant have guns, the laws are very strict. Gun owners have to allow law enforcement monthly checkups where they go into your house and inspect your gunsafe, and count your munitions. Also knives over 20 cm are illegal to carry. I believe these lawys were implemented after belgium revolted or something (best revolt ever btw, flemmish took a single ship and the war was over).

Yeah, like I said, guns could have prevented this. Your own damn fault, tbh

I just inherrited this crap 😛

At least Brazil has a politician that wants to reverse gun bans

These laws are old from when there were many angry people, I mean we have had politicians murdered in the netherlands from before the country was even properly started.

America has had 2 Presidents assassinated, and several attempts.

Yeah, we had a stadhouder (basically president) murdered after the king of spain put a bounty on hiss head for supporting the reformation, and later a very public incident on the leader of the then parliament with his brother where a mob quite litteraly tore them apart in the streets. Might be otehrs but those are from when the country was formed into what it is now. like 1500 - 1700 range.

@Fitzydog We've had four assassinated

it is interesting though as i believe the anti gun laws are from a fear of rebellion i have always been told.

Might be interesting to see what the dates and differences are of these laws across europe

woops europe is cucked by the EU gun laws, minimum is forced and stricter is allowed per nation .. nice

the biggest outside force to change Norway's gun laws irr is the EU

Yeah, from reading a few articles is see that after some of the shootings the dutch presidency (who else) made it super strict on the eu level.

@Hazzardous just saw your earlier message now
(Will copy and paste here so you dont have to scroll back)
*ireland would do a hell of a lot better leaving the eu and joining the commonwealth... but the paddys are too bitter and stupid to realise it.*

Let me jusy explain a few of the reasons thats retarded.
For a start ireland holds all the chips in the northern border negotiations and the idea they would throw that away as well as compromise the independance of the nation is laughable alone without even considering that you think theyd be better off and arent doing it out of spite.

Secondly the while trade with britain holds the plurality the majority of irish trade is to the rest of europe and america as well as a lucratice pharmacuitical amd polymer deal with china. The nation stands to lose a lot of business if they are forced to spend years redrawing their trade agreements.

Next you have to consider that ireland now holds the place of the only EU nation with english as its primary langauge. This combined with the nations status as a tax haven with a highly educated workforce has attracted large offices for many multinational companies such as abbots google facebook phiser medical and so on.

The very idea that you think the citizenry of our country are too stupid and bitter to join up with the commonwealth is laughably retarded. The reality is ireland will be swimming in international investment from every company *including british ones* looking for a window into the EU and youd do well to think about that before you chat shit again.

Tldr im patriotic

> a total ban on all semi-automatic firearms capable of being fitted with a magazine with more than six rounds, i.e. all pistols and most existing semi-automatic rifles. So thats the dutch contribution to stopping the terror, we did it bois!

🔫

still strange that most of the crime that involves guns here is people of middle east ancestry

and in Sweden where you have stick gun laws, the streets are flooded with AK47 and other automatic assault weapons. and dont start on hand granades as that is the new firecrackers over there

yes

the sand people like to throw grenades through apartment windows

We have been lucky so far, there is a massive gun running scheme in The Netherlands, but most are trades away agai, since the end of the Bosnian conflict a pipeline of old russian weapons started and seems to just never have stopped.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3092362/shocking-police-pictures-reveal-10000-weapon-arsenal-intended-for-the-hands-of-terrorists-including-howitzers-machine-guns-and-grenades/ last year in spain
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-raids/german-police-raid-places-linked-to-suspected-islamist-militant-seize-guns-idUSKBN1CU0W3 no problems with guns and radical Muslims in Germany