even ancient history can be used for that, at least among more right leaning people, i think

Hmm. True.

like eg. 'the crusaders were tough and brave'... no they were just thugs motivated by self gain and fanatical religion when it suited them (like a lot of other historical warriors)

you should actually listen to (or read; I listened to it) Tom Holland's 'In the Shadow of the Sword' some time

it's an interesting book

it talks about origins of islam, and what happened before and lead up to that

Yes. I'll be sure to see if I can find it in the library.

maybe a bit biased, but so long as you keep an open mind

To which side is he biased?

imo, against islam

but other people might say he's neutral

so i dunno, you be the judge

lol

Yeah hahahahahaha

I'll keep an open mind

awesome

im a slow reader, i like to listen

but i do have a 'Guns of August' on my book shelf

nice talking to you man

Yeah same here. Great talk.

I usually prefer reading haha. I read rather fast.

if you want a book that's very obviously biased against islam, then there's 'myths of the andalusian paradise' lol

if you don't want that, ignore it haha

I'll try to read that too.

I like hearing from every side. Even if they're biased.

it's not as good, it's more nitpicky imo

Hmm.

I'll see if I can pick it up when I don't have anything else to read.

what're you reading right now?

I'm reading some normal novels for a school project

oh yeah

Just the hobbit, and a book called Warlock.

for a school project?

Yes

what kind of project?\

Analyze the books, make a description of litterally everything.

oh

Just a normal book project

Dont know what its called in english

lol i dunno

I wanted to do it on 1984, but the library didnt have it.