Message from @Zerker

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2018-10-24 11:24:36 UTC  

something like 70-90% of their economy is still privatized

2018-10-24 11:25:17 UTC  

But how much of those are from people connected to the government?

2018-10-24 11:25:34 UTC  

And how many are independent?

2018-10-24 11:26:01 UTC  

connected to the government how?

2018-10-24 11:26:50 UTC  

Any way. Some ministers cousin that managed to begin something with "borrowed" money to not be returned

2018-10-24 11:28:41 UTC  

ok?

2018-10-24 11:28:46 UTC  

The thing is, can you say it's a private company when all income depends on the government?

2018-10-24 11:30:42 UTC  

@Aldoggo what does that mean?

2018-10-24 11:32:05 UTC  

Now. Imagine you need to buy x amount of merchandise from outside, and you have 100 Bs (local coin). If you are not related to the government you have to buy $ in the black market, where the price, let's say is 100 Bs per $. You can buy 1

2018-10-24 11:32:42 UTC  

ok?

2018-10-24 11:32:49 UTC  

If you have good party contacts you can buy $ from government at a special price!

2018-10-24 11:32:56 UTC  

alright?

2018-10-24 11:33:04 UTC  

So let's say 10 Bs per $

2018-10-24 11:33:21 UTC  

You will get 10 $

2018-10-24 11:33:26 UTC  

so yes, corruption is a thing

2018-10-24 11:33:33 UTC  

That you can sell to the regular market

2018-10-24 11:33:35 UTC  

can you connect corruption and socialist policy?

2018-10-24 11:33:37 UTC  

For the real price

2018-10-24 11:34:48 UTC  

So the general state of companies goes down cause they can't do as well

2018-10-24 11:35:12 UTC  

ok?

2018-10-24 11:35:17 UTC  

this is a nice hypothetical

2018-10-24 11:35:20 UTC  

"you are performing like shit" let's take all your work life and give it to the people

2018-10-24 11:35:38 UTC  

can you prove it has any real life connections to Venezuela and has socialist origins?

2018-10-24 11:35:40 UTC  

And it breaks down, cause they can't manage it

2018-10-24 11:36:31 UTC  

Here has always been corruption in Vzla, but it exploded since 2003 where the socialist government implemented the state control currency exchange

2018-10-24 11:36:57 UTC  

can you prove that?

2018-10-24 11:37:03 UTC  

Im on mobile rn.

2018-10-24 11:37:25 UTC  

But you can Google "bolichicos"

2018-10-24 11:37:55 UTC  

Or see how much money Chavez' daughter has

2018-10-24 11:37:59 UTC  

yeah, corruption is a bitch, but I dont see how this is unique to socialism

2018-10-24 11:38:19 UTC  

It's not unique, but it's exponentially increased

2018-10-24 11:38:41 UTC  

by what specific policy?

2018-10-24 11:40:28 UTC  

In this case was the currency exchange

2018-10-24 11:40:57 UTC  

But that's enough, now you explain to me how Venezuela failed

2018-10-24 11:41:06 UTC  

If it wasn't socialism

2018-10-24 11:42:15 UTC  

Venezuela failed due to corruption, US interference, a collapsing oil market, internal corporate elites stocking up and hiding supplies in an attempt to turn public opinion against the government

2018-10-24 11:45:51 UTC  

"professional" "designers" are the bane of my fuckin life

2018-10-24 11:47:34 UTC  

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