So you want the state to take care of these children?
Enjoy your high crime rates then mates

Nice strawman there lol

you already know my opinion on the state

Who sould take care of these children then

the issue is people choosing to get pregnant, then run down to the hospital and get it dead

the parents should take care of their child

The mother, or adoptive parents.

That's the point, that's how you discourage unwanted pregnancies: With the threat of responsibility

yes
Because I can bin the baby very easily

This is the slippery slope of socialism.

You remove responsibility from individuals, and then they want to give it all away to the state

what I'm describing here is a perfect world, but since I know it's impossible, I'll say that I don't think fetuses being aborted is something good, and that the parents should raise the child, but I know that won't happen, so I don't go out and protest abortion

It should be punished just the same as infanticide

You are ignoring the issue here of keeping the pregnancy secret and then killling the baby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770

@franti So.... your issue is that the baby is dying WITHOUT consent of the state?

I dont see the fetus as a fully fuctioning lifeform

That's nice. I do.

women over 45 (later lowered to 40)
women who had already borne four children (later raised to five)
women whose life would be threatened by carrying to term, due to medical complications
women who were pregnant through rape and/or incest

were allowed to get abortion

and contraception

I think banning contraception is retarded

Yeah that's retarded

people have to be allowed to choose if they want to create the life or not

but choosing to create the life should carry more weight in someone's head

So if you are a whore, that doesn't use condoms or birth control, why should I be sympathetic to your half assed coat hanger abortion?

6 years prison, you stupid cunt

Irresposible parents raising more irresponsible children

whatever could go wrong

Adoption is perfectly fine

There would be an oversuply of orpahns

there already are lol

how about you think about if you want a child before having sex without a condom

Let society rot
Just because of a fetus

Also you are impying condom cant break
Nor hormonal contraception fail

Also
ever heard of stealthing?

you mean rape

non consensual removal of contraception

If you do the Crime, do the time.

so my position is, abort all you want, that's society right now, I won't stop you

but don't lie and say it's not extinguishing life

I think you underestimate the impact of lack of abortion access on society