You are ignoring the issue here of keeping the pregnancy secret and then killling the baby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770

@franti So.... your issue is that the baby is dying WITHOUT consent of the state?

I dont see the fetus as a fully fuctioning lifeform

That's nice. I do.

women over 45 (later lowered to 40)
women who had already borne four children (later raised to five)
women whose life would be threatened by carrying to term, due to medical complications
women who were pregnant through rape and/or incest

were allowed to get abortion

and contraception

I think banning contraception is retarded

Yeah that's retarded

people have to be allowed to choose if they want to create the life or not

but choosing to create the life should carry more weight in someone's head

So if you are a whore, that doesn't use condoms or birth control, why should I be sympathetic to your half assed coat hanger abortion?

6 years prison, you stupid cunt

Irresposible parents raising more irresponsible children

whatever could go wrong

Adoption is perfectly fine

There would be an oversuply of orpahns

there already are lol

how about you think about if you want a child before having sex without a condom

Let society rot
Just because of a fetus

Also you are impying condom cant break
Nor hormonal contraception fail

Also
ever heard of stealthing?

you mean rape

non consensual removal of contraception

If you do the Crime, do the time.

so my position is, abort all you want, that's society right now, I won't stop you

but don't lie and say it's not extinguishing life

I think you underestimate the impact of lack of abortion access on society

without abortion you become islam

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@Fitzydog Yes you are right
people will just get one in Canada

stop coming to canada for healthcare

Or in case of Ireland before it was legal
They were shipping women to the UK for abortions

lol I find it funny that you think abortion rates would be similar without access

So are you ok with abortion in case of rape?

yep

yes

I already said so

Why?
Does the child not have a right to live?
As you said the mother can always give it up for adoption