Message from @Angus

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2018-11-02 15:53:19 UTC  

It's not like in 10 years all of this SJW progressive nonsense will have blown over and disappeared

2018-11-02 15:53:29 UTC  

That's the new Left

2018-11-02 15:54:33 UTC  

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2018-11-02 15:55:00 UTC  

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2018-11-02 15:55:21 UTC  

A final solution to the white blight

2018-11-02 15:57:38 UTC  

The new paradigm can be summed up in one question:

Do you believe in social equity

but don't disenfranchise me.

It's Progressives - Liberals - Conservatives

2018-11-02 15:58:54 UTC  

There's not much difference between 'Classical Liberals' and Conservatives in 2018

2018-11-02 15:58:56 UTC  

Just like i had to give up on saving the label liberal in america

2018-11-02 15:59:26 UTC  

Conservatives are 'conserving' classical liberalism lol

2018-11-02 15:59:39 UTC  

Its forever lost to the illiberal party

2018-11-02 16:00:33 UTC  

Its possible. Conservatism is about conserving traditions and virtues. And that changes with the times

2018-11-02 16:00:48 UTC  

Also, Liberalism was tainted as soon as they introduced Utilitarianism into the mix

2018-11-02 16:01:00 UTC  

Classical liberalism was the statis quo for long enough conservitives try to get it to survive

IF there's not much difference Conservatives have moved left

I have not moved Right

2018-11-02 16:02:33 UTC  

No, conservative just got broader.

2018-11-02 16:02:41 UTC  

Left/right is relative

2018-11-02 16:02:57 UTC  

everything has moved left because of the shit yuri bezmenov told us about

2018-11-02 16:03:15 UTC  

"Russia lost the cold war" is a joke

2018-11-02 16:03:25 UTC  

Like, what do people even define conservative AS anymore?

2018-11-02 16:03:31 UTC  

Conservative and Lineral are NOT LEFT RIGHT LIMITED

2018-11-02 16:03:32 UTC  

right of left

2018-11-02 16:03:53 UTC  

Republicans and democrats can be either.

2018-11-02 16:04:16 UTC  

yeah, it was neat seeing the democrats being the status quo option when you always think that the conservatives are that

2018-11-02 16:05:02 UTC  

You have conservative democrats. Its just their statis quo is dofferent than republicans

2018-11-02 16:05:26 UTC  

Conservative democrats have another name. Corporate Democrats

2018-11-02 16:05:33 UTC  

As far as I can tell, "conservative" just means "not progressive" by the majority of usage

2018-11-02 16:06:06 UTC  

In a sense. But americans tend to lump conservative with republican and liberal with democrat.

2018-11-02 16:07:41 UTC  

Conservative:
holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.

2018-11-02 16:08:18 UTC  

Liberal
favoring maximum individual liberty in political and social reform.

2018-11-02 16:08:30 UTC  

Sounds pretty traditional to not give preferential treatment to minority groups

2018-11-02 16:08:44 UTC  

Hell even democrats generally arnt liberal but progressive.

2018-11-02 16:09:44 UTC  

Progressive
a person advocating or implementing social reform

2018-11-02 16:09:59 UTC  

That's my point: Traditionalism is now the idea of maximizing individual liberty

2018-11-02 16:10:06 UTC  

It seems like liberal but misses one important part there. Individual liberty

2018-11-02 16:10:39 UTC  

The issue is technically you cant be conservative AND Liberal

2018-11-02 16:11:00 UTC  

Because of the ket that one wants to keep to tradition, and the other wants change.

2018-11-02 16:11:15 UTC  

You mean progressive?

2018-11-02 16:12:35 UTC  

No. Liberals want social and political reform as well
Just with the highlight of individual liberty.

Progressive wants it but without the individual.

Conservative is extremeply reluctant to change.