Message from @Broo TulsiGang 2024 π¬π§ πΊπΈ
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Hell conservatives IN THE US have different views of what is tradition
Some do believe the 40s 50s is the american tradition, some have modernized.
But the key is. Liberalism and progressivism is always bringing changes to the traditions. Conservatives figure what is traditional and try to protect it.
Kinda two sides of the same coin and a great balancer
idk, I don't see how Liberalism can lead to social changes with defined principles.
It should be a constant
@Goblin_Slayer_Floki that was a pretty good read
I didnt say that. I meant they check and balance each other. While one advicates for needed changes. The other weights it against traditions and values and supports or fights the changes
Ideally.
Maybe I'm so much of a traditionalist that I dont see the need to advocate for any future unforseeable changes
That's where you're wrong kid
we need YUUUUGE changes
The best changes, believe me
Well yeah, but that's not what I meant.
As in, we don't need to be prepared to fight a 'future problem' that we haven't anticipated, with a policy change that is either left or right wing
Like, the whole idea of 'needed changes' is fundamentally flawed on both accounts, because there's no need to be changing anything anymore.
Anything you advocate for to be changed shouldn't be the role of government in the first place and is just a poorly concealed attempt at a power grab/posturing for tyrannical control over people.
What, do you anticipate that in the future we might have to advocate for the right of dogs to be considered citizens, and that we need a progressive party to be their savior?
No, it's fucking retarded.
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The issue is your looking at future. When the key of the two has always been present.
The present of the 1800s was slaves were freed and so in an attempt to change the status quo the slaves and their babies were given citizenship. The conservatives of the time (which were democrats) were against the liberals of the time.
Again liberal and conservative isnt a left/right idea. Or a democrat/republocan idea.
And as i said the "tradition" does change over time and location. So later on it was adopted as tradition by conservatives. And so on.
Just like before conservatives were pro monarchy, but supported the american revolution.
GET FUCKED
So your saying
Theres a chance π€
Like <2% Trump Presidency according to HuffPo
I'd say it's like a 2/3 chance repubs win the house
The Senate is safe for the republicans
We will see
@Legiondude oh sorry mustβve missclicked
In my entire life, I've never met someone who's been polled lol
Especially after this census doesnt count illegals
Next week are the midterms right?
yus
11/6