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i'm out

I don't think anyone said we need an unregulated economy altogether, unless there are any AnCaps here.

lol me too

I'm definitely not an ancap.

I'm conservitarian.

With a little bit of neo-con and classic social liberalism.

Well, lack of regulation didn't cause the recession, but how does that mean we're lying?

I thought I was pointing out the faculties of the free market

No, I'm trying to have you tell me where the Right is lying, because you said both sides do

Faults*

A free market doesn't mean a COMPLETELY unregulated market. A market should be regulated in the sense that it doesn't infringe on individual rights.

I'm not sure if that is the position you were going after.

It sounds to me like you're arguing against anarcho-capitalist vision of free market.

but maybe I misunderstand

Oh, they’re currently lying about protecting people with pre existing conditions. Majority of Republicans/ Conservatives are against Obamacare which covers people with pre existing conditions and they’re ready to repeal it. Yet trump just said at a rally that him other republicans would protect them, he never stated how

Clearly he’s lying

He lied about corporations

Said he wouldn’t take money from them

Well you can have both at the same time, repealing Obamacare, and helping people with pre-existing conditions.

Repeal it with universal healthcare 👍🏾

US is never going to see universal healthcare as they are never going to accept the tax level you need for it

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So you are conflating Trump "lying" on two occasions, with willfully misconstruing policy positons?

Some guy on Destiny’s server was talking about how he thinks the rich should be taxed at 90% 🤣

Aaaaaaaaand we're offtopic now

Trump is a conservative though, he represents them

Can't keep a girl pinned down.

Represents who?

They wouldn't say so

He’s not the only one who’s said this though

He's not even a conservative in the colloquial sense

I can show you videos of multiple Republicans lying about pre existing conditions

policy-wise he is conservative

as much as Frum would tell you otherwise

that raging faggot

I mean honestly it wouldn't surprise me. It has been pretty hard to get anything good passed in regards to healthcare. I'm sure many republicans have run on it and gotten little success during their time in office.

Alright, it seems we're all hung up on healthcare now, so I'll let y'all move on to that.

Point is: The Conservative ideology and policy decisions are NOT based on lies, while the Leftist ones are purposeful lies meant to deceive the populace as to their actual purpose

universal healthcare need around a 30+% income tax from the middle class just to get going and you need to rework the whole health system as the government needs to take over all the hospitals and such

(I feel like the only one trying to stay focused here lol)

I'm trying to follow zaddy's points and respond to them in a way that helps her understand my point of view.