Message from @MountainMan

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2018-11-10 04:15:23 UTC  

I wonder if this could be theoretically used against social media?

2018-11-10 05:37:36 UTC  

Wtf statistics did Jeff Daniels' writer read?

2018-11-10 05:41:24 UTC  

sluuuurp

2018-11-10 07:22:01 UTC  

"taxation is the fee for living in a society, if you don't want taxes go live somewhere where there aren't any and see how fun that is"

2018-11-10 07:22:04 UTC  

opinions?

2018-11-10 07:23:42 UTC  

Some taxation is. At the state and local level to pay for law enforcement, courts, fure, roads, ect. However there is a limit to this. And these days that has gone far beyond.

2018-11-10 08:40:31 UTC  

The problem isn't taxation itself. The problem is using taxation for things other than essential government functions.

2018-11-10 08:41:04 UTC  

What essential means can be debated. But we can all agree that there's a shit ton of stuff that the government subsidizes that it shouldn't be at the state, local and federal level.

2018-11-10 09:18:23 UTC  

@Angus That's obviously false, societies have existed before without taxation so there is no inherent necessity for civilisations to enact coercive methods of state funding. And to tell somewhere to go live somewhere else is begging the question as it already assumes that the state has a legitimate claim to the common land

2018-11-10 09:29:00 UTC  

has the state become too dependent on taxes?

2018-11-10 09:29:17 UTC  

I remember income tax was only instituted for wartime

2018-11-10 09:29:21 UTC  

but then it never went away

2018-11-10 09:42:55 UTC  

@Angus The state is a parasitical entity in concept and in practice, it is dependent on the people it takes control over and coerces to exist at all

2018-11-10 09:43:33 UTC  

There is no "**too** dependent" about it, the state IS dependent regardless

2018-11-10 10:05:54 UTC  

so what is the solution to having no taxes?

2018-11-10 10:06:07 UTC  

forced prostitution

2018-11-10 10:06:25 UTC  

bake sales

2018-11-10 10:07:55 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/510757489927520256/video.mov

2018-11-10 10:08:17 UTC  

is this how the gubmint will still make money

2018-11-10 10:08:18 UTC  

I’ve had night terrors because of this video this past week

2018-11-10 10:08:26 UTC  

with this video

2018-11-10 10:08:31 UTC  

yes

2018-11-10 10:08:34 UTC  

this is how

2018-11-10 10:09:42 UTC  

would direct democracy work in a small country such as sweden

2018-11-10 10:10:03 UTC  

you mean mob rule democracy?

2018-11-10 10:10:13 UTC  

yee

2018-11-10 10:13:20 UTC  

@Angus Ez, we get rid of the state

2018-11-10 10:13:37 UTC  

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2018-11-10 10:14:43 UTC  

then what

2018-11-10 10:14:53 UTC  

you just want anarchy?

2018-11-10 10:16:23 UTC  

Yup

2018-11-10 10:16:41 UTC  

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2018-11-10 10:17:27 UTC  

here are some places you could find that

2018-11-10 10:18:14 UTC  

I don't think the people in any modern country is going to willingly descend into this

2018-11-10 10:26:28 UTC  

Most of these (if not all) are either communes or the spoils of war-time activites

2018-11-10 10:27:21 UTC  

how do you propose 300 million people live in an anarchist community, a "communist" people, if you will

2018-11-10 10:27:23 UTC  

A better example of an individualist society that I advocate for would be Ireland from to years 600-1600 (ish)