Message from @Silver0Fox

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2018-11-16 14:15:12 UTC  

Yes. But in Britain you don't vote for the prime minister

2018-11-16 14:15:38 UTC  

You vote for the party and they vote within themselves who the leader is

2018-11-16 14:15:49 UTC  

Here, we would have actually killed that person if the system didn't fix itself fast enough I think.

2018-11-16 14:15:59 UTC  

Ahh, rule by unelected official. Sounds wonderful

2018-11-16 14:16:04 UTC  

I believe it's preferential voting

2018-11-16 14:16:17 UTC  

Well I get it. A republic.

2018-11-16 14:16:19 UTC  

They still have to be elected

2018-11-16 14:16:37 UTC  

It's indirect voting in theory.

2018-11-16 14:16:40 UTC  

The party member must be elected

2018-11-16 14:16:55 UTC  

You still hire a janitor. Doesn't mean he should be CEO

2018-11-16 14:17:02 UTC  

It's to combat cults of personality

2018-11-16 14:17:22 UTC  

Which while not ideal, once the country gets to a certain size, becomes hard to avoid.

2018-11-16 14:17:29 UTC  

True

2018-11-16 14:17:58 UTC  

The idea is the party puts out a manifesto and then everyone campaigns on that

2018-11-16 14:18:19 UTC  

It is supposed to put the focus on the issues

2018-11-16 14:18:39 UTC  

Australia has a similar system

2018-11-16 14:19:22 UTC  

I think most (informed) people realize that when they elect a president, they're electing an administration as well, with a 4 year plan

2018-11-16 14:19:25 UTC  

Then again we have had 7 prime ministers in as many years.... Soooooo

2018-11-16 14:19:36 UTC  

Doesn't always work

2018-11-16 14:20:05 UTC  

Parliamentary systems sounds like overly convulted mob rule

2018-11-16 14:20:54 UTC  

Nah. It's kind of like your electoral college except the members of the house represent the college votes

2018-11-16 14:21:22 UTC  

I just look at how this has all developed in Europe, and it blows my mind. It seems like the EU just sprang out of nowhere and, slowly became a regulatory body instead of a trade union WITHOUT the knowledge or approval of literally everyone but two countries, the UK finally realized that "Holy shit who gave these guys authority? They signed themselves into permanent office," tried to get out, and got betrayed by its leader.

2018-11-16 14:21:26 UTC  

Also we have preferential voting which makes things more interesting and stops mob rule

2018-11-16 14:21:46 UTC  

Yeah, convulted mod rule. Electors represent geographical areas, not demographic breakdowns by numbers

2018-11-16 14:22:35 UTC  

To be fair. Mob rule is more or less democracy anyway.

2018-11-16 14:22:49 UTC  

Just that mob is even bigger.

2018-11-16 14:23:10 UTC  

It blows my mind when people say "The X party is in charge, and THEY chose a leader to represent them"

2018-11-16 14:23:37 UTC  

I'm sorry, *the party chose a representative for me?*

2018-11-16 14:24:18 UTC  

You know who they are before they get voted in

2018-11-16 14:24:32 UTC  

In fact you know the entire cabinet

2018-11-16 14:24:47 UTC  

Do you get to vote on the candidate you prefer for them to pick from? We have elections for that. Well the Republican Party does. The Democrats pretend they do.

2018-11-16 14:24:54 UTC  

Not saying it's great

2018-11-16 14:24:55 UTC  

It tends to only lead to issues if the leader resigns or retires between elections

2018-11-16 14:25:21 UTC  

Or there's a coup within the party....

2018-11-16 14:25:29 UTC  

From the outside, it seems like your Parliament is run by parties, not people, and most of the reps could be swapped out for someone else and it would work just the same

2018-11-16 14:25:35 UTC  

I hate my country sometimes

2018-11-16 14:25:58 UTC  

most parlamentary democracies run this way

2018-11-16 14:26:10 UTC  

A lot of the time yes, but it means that we get a lot more independents having influence

2018-11-16 14:26:27 UTC  

At least that's here in Australia

2018-11-16 14:26:36 UTC  

I don't think Americans calling Reps and Dems 'parties' helps at all

2018-11-16 14:26:38 UTC  

We also have a lot more parties