Brexit is but a step in the right direction, not the finish line.

as long as you have the chain of EU around UK neck they cant improve

eu in itself is not a bad idea, the problem is the bureaucracy that answers to no one that has appeared

they wanted to do too much too fast

Actually the EU in itself is a horrid Idea. Read the founding documents

It was broken from the beginning

Unless your "Idea" of what the EU was meant to be is the romanticized BS that was spoon fed to people, and some still believe

EU was made to make a united states of Europe with a unelected ruling class like back when we did have kings

since people did not mingle enough to make federazation possible, they brought in the "new europeans" to make a new "master race"

if they have done it in lets say a 100 years, made it possible for real political blocks to form naturally

that actually represent the people of europe

I spit on people who compare the EU to the US. As fundamentally they are opposites. the US was built to be bottom up, where the EU was built top down.

then europe would become a political powerhouse of the world

@desert hamster Federalization is impossible in Europe

problems comes that EU is running out of time. they did not have a 100 years to wait, now they don't have 10 years

Yea Europe is far to devided to be federalized.

@desert hamster Do you think America had 50 states and stretched across the whole continent before we became a nation?

And the EU adopted far to many socialistic/protectionist ideals to survive a European Federalization.

even Germany is having huge problems keeping it together

@Fitzydog well it did have roughly 13...>_>

@Fitzydog yes, that is why integration should have been slowed until people felt a real sense of belonging to europe

But the key was the Nation was founded Bottom Up.

@desert hamster Wait, what?

ok, let me explain

india

With the flow of power. Granted that became muttled post Civil war.

has 1.3 billion people

china has 1.4 i think

the US was united in less then 100 years. a 100 years in Europe is a blink of an eye in the history books

usa has 350 million

I feel like people who think Europe can be a federation like the US, aren't familiar with US history

european nations have 50-60 million

largers ones at least

Or with European for that matter @Fitzydog

they need to stand united

It's not a numbers game dude

It's a culture thing

i know

No, you don't lol

that is why i think a federation at this time is not possible

Europe have over 3000 years of history, that is not something that goes away easy