Message from @Xenosural
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We have a seperate vote for pres
Oh, no. But the office could be voted on enitrely by reps with no citizen input
Not technically. With the set up the people of each state vote. The majority win in each state gets the electors
With a couple exceptions who van split their electors
Still has zero congressional input
Right, what I meant was, that there's nothing requiring a state to give their citizens a ballot with presidential candidates names on it.
The two party system has otehr issues though, as evidenced while Obama was in office, did he not have an unprecedented ammount of executive orders, i remember articles from senators claiming they were unable to even speak to him, as he was working with a majority Republican senate? The only two sides makes finding a compromize very hard top do if people start running party lines.
With more parties and a defacto coalition to begin with, you alwasy have possible negotiations where not 50% hates the other 50%
not saying that 70 parties is a solution though lol
He didnt have an unprecented, but yes a lot. Many of which toed carlessly near illegal. The reson we are set up that way is a check and balance system. Something lacking in say the uk
@Xenosural Well, historically our two parties (which isn't even a requirement) have worked better together
But tbh the founders said parties at all are a death of a nation
Because party ideals begin to outwiegh the constituency needs
No more parties, only individuals, that would make election time crazy over here.
Rand Paul is a "republican", but just as a label. It's just a name, with nothing attached
Yea both our parties are made up of tons of sub parties
Just in defacto alliance when elections come
We dont have geographically representation though, locally we have the city councils we vote for but those are mostly charters of the national parties with some local only stuff sprinkeled in.
One states moderate republican is another states moderate democrat
Basically
Yea our states mimmic our fed
They dont really here either. They just get all put on the same ballet for ease
And to answer your statement fitz. If states didnt issue the ballpts, then the feds would and it would be mute.
Jeeze, representation without regard to geography would be a nightmare
States prefer to have the control so
And they prolly get funding which helps pay for their own elections held at the same time
Well over here we can traverse the whole country up and down and have time to spare to go on holliday in a single day. Our 'states' are more like municipalities or counties compared to the US.
Yea no geo representation would be insane. Think mass policy being decided by arizona
Fair.
Germany right?
That is what is happening, the majority of the people are in like 4 cities in 2 provinces, every other province barely has a voice in the critical mass.
Netherlands
Ah
Germany is similar, but iirc the people identify regionally far more than nationally
Its almost as if regional govs have more power than the fed internally
Yes, germany is more like the US in that the Bundes (states) have some form of self government that is actually visible in politics.
Your entire country is only 3 times larger than my immediate local region
In the netherlands tehre are secretaries and some staff on province level, but those are appointed by the King, just like Majors are. \
Yeah, but its not less complicated due to it being smaller haha
I'm frustrated enough as it is by not having local representation in my county, for the immediate couple square mile area where I live lol