Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2019-01-20 16:49:49 UTC  

They want to call a constitutional convention

2019-01-20 16:52:02 UTC  

oy vey

2019-01-20 16:55:57 UTC  

so what would this amendment actually look like in practice, i don't get it @Fitzydog

2019-01-20 16:56:44 UTC  

They list it right in the article. It's literally nothing.

"Equal rights for women and men."

2019-01-20 16:57:03 UTC  

Which the civil Rights act already does

2019-01-20 16:57:47 UTC  

that's why i'm confused

2019-01-20 16:58:12 UTC  

so i'm guessing it's gonna be used in some fucked up way

2019-01-20 16:58:19 UTC  

idk

2019-01-20 16:58:20 UTC  

@Fitzydog you should have been here last night

2019-01-20 16:58:43 UTC  

there was some faggot arguing that the constitution wasn't the law of the land

2019-01-20 16:59:37 UTC  

Well, I mean, if you want to get technical, its the law of the government and states.

2019-01-20 17:00:02 UTC  

It's the rules for the rulers

2019-01-20 17:01:58 UTC  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment

They've been trying to lift the sunset clause on the amendment for ages

2019-01-20 17:03:05 UTC  

Oh, so, more visitation rights for men then?

2019-01-20 17:03:50 UTC  

And women have to sign up for the draft?

2019-01-20 17:05:46 UTC  

"Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."

That's the amendment, basically. The other two clauses of effect are how it's implemented through Congress' power and when it takes effect

2019-01-20 18:01:19 UTC  

I like how in the 20s and 60s it was working class and conservative women who shot it down. Today it would be leftist.

2019-01-20 18:05:38 UTC  

Howevrr, i dont see it making a big difference. Many states adopted similar admendments to their own constitutions but still dont have equal rights on divorce. Like Oregon.

2019-01-20 18:06:35 UTC  

It has to go to legislation in all 50 states first

2019-01-20 18:07:35 UTC  

It has. In the 60s.

2019-01-20 18:08:46 UTC  

It failed to be ratified by the deadline. But like i said many states took exact duplicates and put it in their state constitutions like oregon, but they still have alimony, women getting custody more often and so on.

2019-01-20 18:09:38 UTC  

Yeah, I guess. Idk what this does other than sounds nice in writing

2019-01-20 18:10:38 UTC  

It just becomes a bludgeoning tool for "sexist groups" but it wont change the status quo for sectors women come ahead in, like divorce.

2019-01-20 18:15:01 UTC  

Oh shit, I never even thought about that. This can ruin freedom of association for men's groups

It won't pass 🀣

2019-01-20 18:16:21 UTC  

Oh it will

gl on the battlefield then

2019-01-20 18:17:00 UTC  

These people aren't self aware enough to understand the ramifications of their actions

2019-01-20 18:18:09 UTC  

"The Equal Rights for Women Amend---"

"EQUAL RIGHTS?!? OMG YES OF COURSE ILL VOTE FOR THAT!!"

\*Checks box*

2019-01-20 18:18:47 UTC  

Lmao, you know whats funny. That was the same reason sufferage took so long.

2019-01-20 18:19:18 UTC  

*suffrage lol

2019-01-20 18:19:18 UTC  

So what will happen is it will get kicked back that subsection removed and then passed, just like voting rights.

2019-01-20 18:19:26 UTC  

Meh

2019-01-20 18:19:29 UTC  

Tired

2019-01-20 18:19:43 UTC  

We are suffering from suffrage kek

2019-01-20 18:21:56 UTC  

Oh wait. Technically alimony isnt just awarded to women. Rven though less than 5% of cases men qualify for alimony get it, that can be touted that the system is "equal" cause both "can be" same with custody.

2019-01-20 18:22:11 UTC  

So it wouldnt abolish it...

2019-01-20 18:22:45 UTC  

Yeah, but you'd see a lot more appeals under this amendment

2019-01-20 18:23:16 UTC  

So yea, moat of the status quo would stay the same. It would just be a tool to blungeon mens groups, blungeon employers cause they chose a man to hire, ect.