Message from @Nordhand

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2019-02-11 17:17:53 UTC  

There is a natural survival element in it.

2019-02-11 17:18:43 UTC  

Because for most of human history the age of maturity was puberty. And propogation is the name of the game in survival as a species.

2019-02-11 17:19:07 UTC  

And no the "gay gene" is still a theory.

2019-02-11 17:19:55 UTC  

This can be seen in many, many becoming homosexual due to environmental factors.

2019-02-11 17:20:07 UTC  

Especially in women.

2019-02-11 17:20:52 UTC  

it's not a "gay gene" but a natural predisposition - more people with it are heterosexual than those that are homosexual

2019-02-11 17:23:07 UTC  

natural survival - when, 10,000 BC? It's a social convention, not a biological one... but yes, once a certain degree of physical development has been achieved by someone, they will naturally have a degree of sexual attraction to others.

2019-02-11 17:23:44 UTC  

this does not excuse their exploitation

2019-02-11 17:27:13 UTC  

In genetics you have to point to the genes. The "natural disposition" based on genes accounts for a tiny, tiny percent of the lgbt community if any tbh. Especially since homosexuality "naturally" goes against the key focus of the "nature" of a creature, propogation.

Again, being sexually attracted to someone who has hit and post puberty is closer to that 'naturally' than homosexuality. Those that are attracted to prepubesent are excluded in this. They are probably as much a mental/environmental issue as the probably overwhelming majority of homosexual and trans.

2019-02-11 17:30:06 UTC  

In my experience, any gay guy who has opened up to me has always been abused as a child... it is very compelling to conclude that has more to do with it than anything else - I'm talking people who wish they were straight, not fashion victims.

2019-02-11 17:31:08 UTC  

...but being attracted to someone is mostly social conditioning, yes

2019-02-11 17:32:07 UTC  

Societal and higher thinking has formed us to think the pubescent child is to not be touched, and i agree with that. But to deny it isnt the nature is wrong.

And yea most lesbians i have met (my wife being bi has lead to meeting more than a few) have all been lesbian post shit hetero abusive relationships, or parental abuses.

2019-02-11 17:33:56 UTC  

Incidentally, I'm hetero myself, I'm not trying to defend gay, trannies etc... but when data points in a direction, you have a choice whether to accept it or not.

2019-02-11 17:34:11 UTC  

The data is mixed

2019-02-11 17:34:44 UTC  

The issue is there are tons of activist groups squalching data as "phobic" and blocking further research

2019-02-11 17:35:23 UTC  

pressure groups - possibly the worst invention in history, LOL

2019-02-11 17:35:48 UTC  

The fact they call it "gay gene" in the first place is very biased too...
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2155810-what-do-the-new-gay-genes-tell-us-about-sexual-orientation/

2019-02-11 17:36:19 UTC  

That'll be the Tommy Robinson stuff ^^^

Tommy's on notice until he drops his evidence

2019-02-11 17:40:38 UTC  

BBC not liking working people is nothing new. we need something better then that

they already pay for it 🀷🏿

BBC shits out so many long turds even my Grandma complains about it

and they wanna take away her free liocence cus she's over 75

So White people get caught less?

2019-02-11 18:32:16 UTC  

It's in legal marijuana business, **maybe** on average black people just do more illegal marijuana related stuff. It doesn't say anything about white people doing illegal marijuana business.

2019-02-11 18:46:53 UTC  

yeah that data doesn't really relate

2019-02-11 18:49:17 UTC  

The columns are not labeled

2019-02-11 18:49:35 UTC  

It literally means nothing.

2019-02-11 18:49:40 UTC  

Not a real graph

2019-02-11 18:49:55 UTC  

What are the dates for data collection

2019-02-11 18:50:02 UTC  

But people will see columns that look unequal and buy it

2019-02-11 18:50:11 UTC  

Ask ACLU

2019-02-11 18:50:38 UTC  

Someone linked me one of those before and the argument can change based on a weekly account vs a year

2019-02-11 18:51:04 UTC  

But I guess muh racism right

2019-02-11 18:51:11 UTC  

Basically

2019-02-11 18:52:04 UTC  

I said that in another discord that this doesn't prove that there is institutionalized racisim, and I got called a conspiracy theorist

2019-02-11 18:52:40 UTC  

I didn't realize that wanting proper data made me a flat earther

2019-02-11 18:54:16 UTC  

proof is racist in todays society

2019-02-11 18:54:32 UTC  

Mhm