It’s like The Master in Fallout. You can’t convince him that The Unity isn’t the moral endgoal. You have to convince him as to why his utopia is impossible to achieve.

yeah they have different morals, so they don't see our morals

Not even. You can't convince someone of a moral argument with reason.

they have different premises for their principles

the only way you can see eye to eye with them is ethics, but they can make ours look stupid through mockery

You need to give then intuition of why there position is untennable.

so we have to communicate to them with their language

eg. use mockery against them

show them scenarios where they can't apply their principles, and then why that doesn't work in most realistic situations

I wonder how needed a LWJGL 3.x HTML engine is needed for Java.

Woops

wrong server

This drama with jim is embarrassing

Did you really join this server just to say that?

Kind of sad to be honest.

Really wanted to pick the brain of other sargon fans

So I joined

anything with Jim is embarassing

oh okay, I assumed you were a JimFag just here for the "LOLZ, SARGON'S A FAGGOT".

my apologies

I saw that he liked a tweet calling jim a pedo

I'm just really fed up with this drama

After his serious pivot

Rather a YouTube comment

who liked, Sargon, he doesn't have an account on twitter.

oh okay, well I haven't seen that.

His stream from today

Yeah, I saw that, but I don't normally scroll the comments heavily.

https://twitter.com/SodiumHarvester/status/1050590920947654656?s=19

Honestly, I'm sick of it too.

What do you think of his gamer gate thing?

okay that liked comment, I think is clearly liked as a joke.

as for this gamergate thing, I mean, I do think it'd be fucking hilarious, and I think it's easier than the killstream was acknowledging. Not super easy, but certainly not impossible or exceedingly difficult.

I was just watching the quartering stream, and he was briefly on the killstream, and a guest they brought on made a good point. The progressives have associated Trump with gamergate several times themselves, that makes this much easier than without that.

I stopped watching that Stream earlier the moment Jim came on personally.

Jim honestly really comes off to me as incredibly petty.

he really does.

Sargon's a genius

Though I'm not sure what to make of Ralph inviting the dude the moment he made the statement "I don't mind interacting with Jim."

10 seconds later, he brings Jim in.

Those kill streamers are getting milked and they don't even know it!