Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?
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yes, morals are largely pathos
principles (should) be logical
ethics are just conduct i think
What of the ingrained nature of humans?
Is that 'pathos'?
yeah, pathos is emotional appeal
Yeah, okay, that makes sense i guess
But I wouldn't consider the golden rule to be pathos
cool
man
Except the golden rule isnt inherent in human nature
yeah but the golden rule usually applies in conduct when people are trying to get along
Right, it's come to logically as the best means forward for conflict resolution and avoidance
it transcends culture, people tend to comprehend it easily
Yes it's not hardwired either
doesn't often apply when it comes to hierarchy tho
So it would be more a principal than a pathos.
People understand it but dont follow it.
As not all cultures follow it.
a moral principle
i mean there's logical reasons to undermine the golden rule
An *ethical principle* <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>
sure
yeah, ethics morals and principles all blend together sometimes lol
or most times, i duno
Principles generally are derived from the other 2
An objective truth, that covers most people's subjective experiences
People generally build their principles from the logical extension of their own morals and ethics
yes, so even principles are subjective
then
thats why we can't agree on things
or other people can't
principles have an internal rationale
Everything based past natural instinct can technically be subjective
if you assume premises, then you reason into principles
eg. the individual is best (liberal) would be a premise
or eg. ethnic identity is essential to human experience (ethno nationalist)
What is this new pink tag?
yeah, logic without objectives is just chaotic
@What Would Jack Conte Do? read the righteous mind.
Men's subjective experience with women in the Middle East is different than a Western man's, and their principles about it show that