Lobbying does you no good if you're gonna get lynched if you vote to fuck people over

Thus comes the responsibility argument

hell teflon is fucking hella toxic people still cook with it in pans

we need good journalism to expose bad practices

Hard to do it when most people don't care @Pseudo-Logic

@Deleted User that’s hard to come by these days

unfortunately

but there are still people doing it

Or at least, the big journalism outlets drown out the better smaller ones

the whole point to Consumer regulations to stop companies from doing shit is because we know from experience that people are two fucking stupid to look into it themselves

it always comes out eventually though
even the biggest corporations cant hide their garbage

they can and have for almost a genertation MULITPLE TIMES

yeah, but those companies get lawsuits

with no consequnices when all is said and done in the end because they met thier meens

they do risk assments all the time, if X makes C amount of money and Z number of people die. so long as Z value is lesser then C they do it.

like with the whole Toyota cars thing, they guessed between 50-150 people would die due to thier stuck foot metal BS and figured the lawsuits were cheaper then the total recall

If the people don't care that they getting lead in the water, why should you?

this happens all the time and the answer fire is CANCER

And they still don't care

He thinks nothing effects him because muh individualism

What then?

Force yourself upon them?

@Deleted User ok rapist

which is why policy is based sometimes on protecting those who wont protect themselves what a novel concept we only been doing it since the roman era

i'm all for people going to prison for stuff like that

So forced medication is ok?

And forced sterilization?

you cant put Toyota in prison. it;s not a person and the people responible are not responisble for the act it's self due to the way corps work

And forced x?

fire you are making the slippery slope fallacy and now im ignoring you

telling a corperation you cant put lead in gass is not = to forced sterilization

You're the one who thinks it's okay to force people to accept something

i mean if you want to go full ancap go ahead

If the people getting lead in the water don't give two shits, why the fuck are you forcing them to accept

accept what?

Your regulations that they don't care about

because of General Society impact you can't have that many people being constantly sick it brings down Empires if you don't believe me I suggest Rome. Or perhaps the Mongol Empire or perhaps the Qin empire or perhaps the... It goes on having millions of sick people costs a fuck ton of money

And the money I'm talking about isn't even direct medical cost.

So why shouldn't we just nanny every fucking aspect of their lives then?

you shouldnt

We still talking water? I ate my entire dinner just now lol