Message from @Werlf
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because I could swear the main thrust of the argument I was finnaly able to distill from one person is that he declares trump's policys to be anti immigrant therefore trump is anti immigrant
I kinda hope I'm strawmanning.
hurr
neither trump nor his policies are anti immigrant
anti ILLEGAL immigrant
it's an entirely different thing
I'd have gone directly for that if he hadn't cited the muslim ban and the child detention thing both of which have so much internal bullshit I could spend the rest of my life refuting those.
the child detention thing isn't even a thing
if a domestic parent commits a crime they also have their children taken away from them because they are criminals
in actual fact the children of illegal immigrants actually get better treatment
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BREAKING NEWS: Leader of country openly opposes breaking the law!
still feel like I lost the argument.
I wouldn't take it to heart
you lost because it was impossible to win
not for lack of trying
cause if people don't listen to your argument it isn't really an argument
I had an argument with my civics teacher about how Trump isn't an anti-semite
I first mentioned that his daughter is an Orthodox Jew
I was told that "I have a black friend so I'm not racist"
"You're conflating Israeli jews with American jews"
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I told him they're the same thing
racist <:triggered:382980748115968000>
maybe I feel I lost because I failed to convince the one guy in the chat that seemed neutral
I just don't keep a list of citations to hand for everything.
and he gave the me most smug, douchey, questioning look
and then whenever I tried to talk after that he cut me off
crud the reason I lost was because he made the really dumb arguments while I was refuting his links I missed his overarching idiotic point
the massive expansion of the term immigrant
illegal aliens
antisemitism would include all jews
so he refuted himself
gg
damn
I need to get better at debating people
it's easy, allow me to demonstrate
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