Leaving NATO is a stupid idea regardless of what country wants to do it.

You're trying to discuss a complicated topic, yet don't want to discuss the complicated context

I'm arguing on the principle of being in NATO.

Oh, fuck that

It's deferred responsibility

If you default on your debt it will only kill the nations economy. Cause less countries will lend to you. And france cant support itself as is

If you aren't in NATO, you shouldn't expect help from other countries within NATO.

Nato is obsolite

NATO is the only thing stopping russia from invading Poland.

Germany is a part of it. And russia is a privilidge partner

lol no it's not

again, I defer to Ukraine.

US missiles in Poland is stopping Russia

had Poland not joined NATO, it would have ended up just like Ukraine.

Go read a history book

I have... lots.

Somehow I doubt that.

ok

You're not even questioning your underling assumptions, of whether NATO is a necessary, if there are alternative solutions, the rammifications of such a pact, and whether it's even in russias interest to invade other countries than Ukraine or Georgia

@Den Röda Smurfen u

ok

You know how difficult it is to invade, and MAINTAIN control over a foreign populace?

*her*story, u misogynist

You're losing more money than you'd ever hope to gain from the geography

ok

vageography

^

russian invasion strategy.

use our vageography against us.

Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Georgia have a higher risk of invasion than Poland.

But they don't want to leave NATO.

Youre forgetting the option of "no".

@Banana_soda M

Of course not. They have a reason to be in it.

France is like "I'm not defending their raggedy asses, and Russia doesn't give a shit about me, so why am I sending MY troops?"

@Den Röda Smurfen whut do u wunt

how are you bananaman

Baltic falls, then poland, then germany...

I'm pre gud

nice

have pleasant day

@AlephKnoll To sum up: NATO is military welfare for Eastern Europe