again, I defer to Ukraine.

US missiles in Poland is stopping Russia

had Poland not joined NATO, it would have ended up just like Ukraine.

Go read a history book

I have... lots.

Somehow I doubt that.

ok

You're not even questioning your underling assumptions, of whether NATO is a necessary, if there are alternative solutions, the rammifications of such a pact, and whether it's even in russias interest to invade other countries than Ukraine or Georgia

@Den Röda Smurfen u

ok

You know how difficult it is to invade, and MAINTAIN control over a foreign populace?

*her*story, u misogynist

You're losing more money than you'd ever hope to gain from the geography

ok

vageography

^

russian invasion strategy.

use our vageography against us.

Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Georgia have a higher risk of invasion than Poland.

But they don't want to leave NATO.

Youre forgetting the option of "no".

@Banana_soda M

Of course not. They have a reason to be in it.

France is like "I'm not defending their raggedy asses, and Russia doesn't give a shit about me, so why am I sending MY troops?"

@Den Röda Smurfen whut do u wunt

how are you bananaman

Baltic falls, then poland, then germany...

I'm pre gud

nice

have pleasant day

@AlephKnoll To sum up: NATO is military welfare for Eastern Europe

And Western Europe. Most of poland is pretty flat and easily invadeable. Germany is a bigger challenge, but still pretty easy.

Why does Russia want to invade Germany? I already told you it's overly expensive, and has no real return on investment

The alps are the only real defense, but you can just go around.

Its a hypothetical.

We are living in the 1930s. Anything could happen.

Your hypothetical has real world policy ramifications.

You're basing NATO off of a fear mongered fantasy

No one thought Hitler would invade all of Poland.

But it happened.

"hope for the best, but prepare for the worst"

Alright, I can tell this isn't going to go anywhere. Keep living in your Europhile fantasy world where imperialism is a legitimate fear

China is extremely imperialistic. Russia is becoming more imperialistic.