Message from @orolyn

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2019-01-02 17:24:57 UTC  

Maybe not tying X nations to the same currency?

2019-01-02 17:25:07 UTC  

but that was the plan

2019-01-02 17:25:08 UTC  

i think he was saying he was prepared to or did use the debt as leverage

2019-01-02 17:25:11 UTC  

it shouldnt work

2019-01-02 17:25:35 UTC  

He was part of the radical left wing greek party

2019-01-02 17:26:14 UTC  

does that mean hes done a u-turn?

2019-01-02 17:26:15 UTC  

You should never borrow money

2019-01-02 17:26:57 UTC  

You kinda have to sometimes tho

2019-01-02 17:28:11 UTC  

he blamed germany in part (german banks) for lending to foreign countries, as opposed to investing in their own businesses, which allowed greece to accumulate so much debt. at least thats what i understood from it

2019-01-02 17:29:44 UTC  

@M4Gunner there's nothing wrong in running a deficit, as long as the borrowed money is used to finance growth

2019-01-02 17:29:44 UTC  

It's often the only way for most countries

2019-01-02 17:30:44 UTC  

what if it's spent on hookers and blow?

2019-01-02 17:30:54 UTC  

But wont we at some point get into a point of no return once everyone is in debt?

2019-01-02 17:31:01 UTC  

in the context of giving money to another country, is there a difference between lending and investing?

2019-01-02 17:31:24 UTC  

A loan is an investment. Banks make money from loans

2019-01-02 17:32:46 UTC  

ok, so when Yanis' say the solution is to encourage investment, he is literally asking for loans? because the impression i got from "investment" was to invest in equity of businesses

2019-01-02 17:33:02 UTC  

there are already too many loans

2019-01-02 17:33:08 UTC  

@Trebjonn debt isn't the end of the world. Someone's debt is another person's profit. You can also sell debt.

2019-01-02 17:33:28 UTC  

too much debt generally

2019-01-02 17:33:34 UTC  

Gunner owes $150 to a friend that died. <:GWmythiFeelsBadMan:391321619748093972>

2019-01-02 17:34:00 UTC  

could always pay his next of kkin

2019-01-02 17:34:04 UTC  

no kids

2019-01-02 17:34:06 UTC  

@orolyn yes, get companies to move into the country to invest, and get banks and istitutions to finance projects

2019-01-02 17:34:18 UTC  

@Capitán Alatriste I know, but most of the debt are related to actual countries and the those that profit are indivudals

2019-01-02 17:34:23 UTC  

> There is nothing wrong with debt as long as it finances growth.

Essentially correct, until you see negative growth

2019-01-02 17:35:37 UTC  

the implication of debt financed growth is that the growth will pay the debt back via ROI... it's like taking out a credit card to finance your business startup exploits

2019-01-02 17:36:28 UTC  

Yes pretty much

2019-01-02 17:36:28 UTC  

Or if you can hardly even pay the interest on the debt as a nation.


Debt itself on a nation level is also dangerious as it ends up used as a bases for the debtholders countrys currency. Which leads to massive issues when there is a recession. See 2008.

2019-01-02 17:36:51 UTC  

@M4Gunner morning

2019-01-02 17:37:04 UTC  
2019-01-02 17:37:13 UTC  

It can become a domino effect.

2019-01-02 17:37:19 UTC  

Sorry to hear about your friend

2019-01-02 17:37:37 UTC  

guys my roommate got to the coffee pot before me and now i have to water my coffee down or ill have a panic attack

2019-01-02 17:37:37 UTC  

@M4Gunner morning you beautifully ugly bastardo

2019-01-02 17:37:49 UTC  
2019-01-02 17:37:51 UTC  

The 2008 crisis was due to debt among the financial sector aka the mixing of investment and saving banking. Nothing to do with national debt @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

2019-01-02 17:37:54 UTC  

Women cant make coffee

2019-01-02 17:38:10 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki i assume that when the last domino finally falls, the game resets?

2019-01-02 17:38:11 UTC  
2019-01-02 17:38:34 UTC  

Tardo

2019-01-02 17:39:09 UTC  

BAD TASTE