Message from @orolyn

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2019-01-02 16:53:52 UTC  

GOOD MORNING FRIENDS AND ENEMIES

2019-01-02 16:55:50 UTC  

Evening.

2019-01-02 16:55:55 UTC  

Morning faggot

2019-01-02 16:56:16 UTC  

i just watched a talk by Yanis Varoufakis, he strikes me as someone who is against brexit, but believes the EU is to blame. Anyone have any opinions about him? I kinda liked his talk, though I'm for brexit

2019-01-02 16:57:46 UTC  

the oxford thing?

2019-01-02 16:57:50 UTC  

yes

2019-01-02 16:58:15 UTC  

ye watched that too, he seems like a rare intelligent leftie

2019-01-02 16:59:37 UTC  

all I got from it is its either EU-Fascism or National Fascism but I had it running in the background for a while might not have gotten everything

2019-01-02 16:59:50 UTC  

I found it interesting that Bannon wouldnt debate him

2019-01-02 17:01:43 UTC  

well he described a dystopia where the EU collapsed, and east europe unites under Germany, while the rest - including the UK - faces other problems like inflation due simply to proximity.

2019-01-02 17:01:48 UTC  

He doesnt seem to be a Soros-boi but I might be wrong on that

2019-01-02 17:04:29 UTC  

but it got me thinking a little about that, i wondered , even if brexit is good for the UK in 5-10 years, if the whole thing collapses later on then its gonna be a shit show for everyone. he says that everyone needs to unite to solve the problems with the EU itself via investments. but in my mind i feel that the EU collapsing is probably going to happen anyway, and his ideas might be wishful thinking

2019-01-02 17:07:13 UTC  

he also mentioned the Euro crisis was setup to happen from the beginning

2019-01-02 17:07:52 UTC  

yes, im not sure i understood his reason for why it was setup like that though

2019-01-02 17:08:19 UTC  

to gain the Federation

2019-01-02 17:08:38 UTC  

oh ye, for control

2019-01-02 17:09:18 UTC  

this feels like revelation to me, like something that was always in the back of my mind, but just recently realised

2019-01-02 17:14:45 UTC  

still, i liked his talk so, adding him to my watch list, for a while at least until i discover his secret agenda (if any)

2019-01-02 17:14:47 UTC  

lol the "collapse" and "uniting" are two sides of the same coin.

2019-01-02 17:15:34 UTC  

They're both the same game being played

2019-01-02 17:17:49 UTC  

:P a bit of chaos in europe might be healthy in the long run, booms typically follow strife. hopefully this time we can do it without a war

2019-01-02 17:19:36 UTC  

my favourite quote from the Joker "Introduce a little anarchy", a mantra i tend to live by when things in my world start to stagnate

2019-01-02 17:21:34 UTC  

That's not what anarchy means, but okay lol

2019-01-02 17:22:07 UTC  

Varoufakis was a fraud... he was supposed to save the Greek economy as the minister of Finance, but failed to meet any if his promises, failed to strike a repayment deal after the **third** Greek bailout, and generally pissed off everyone in Europe because he was pushing for a pardonning of the Greek debt

2019-01-02 17:22:46 UTC  

He was convinced that there was some sort of EU conspiracy against Greece

2019-01-02 17:22:56 UTC  

There isn't?

2019-01-02 17:23:46 UTC  

he tells about being assigned the post and first thing they said "sign here or we close all the banks in greece" or something along the lines and he talks about meeting obama, basically saying the same happened to him

2019-01-02 17:23:50 UTC  

No, the EU saved Greece three times from Bankruptcy and already pardonned one of their bailouts. The EU is simply pissed off now

2019-01-02 17:24:34 UTC  

Maybe socialism doesn't work?

2019-01-02 17:24:57 UTC  

Maybe not tying X nations to the same currency?

2019-01-02 17:25:07 UTC  

but that was the plan

2019-01-02 17:25:08 UTC  

i think he was saying he was prepared to or did use the debt as leverage

2019-01-02 17:25:11 UTC  

it shouldnt work

2019-01-02 17:25:35 UTC  

He was part of the radical left wing greek party

2019-01-02 17:26:14 UTC  

does that mean hes done a u-turn?

2019-01-02 17:26:15 UTC  

You should never borrow money

2019-01-02 17:26:57 UTC  

You kinda have to sometimes tho

2019-01-02 17:28:11 UTC  

he blamed germany in part (german banks) for lending to foreign countries, as opposed to investing in their own businesses, which allowed greece to accumulate so much debt. at least thats what i understood from it

2019-01-02 17:29:44 UTC  

@M4Gunner there's nothing wrong in running a deficit, as long as the borrowed money is used to finance growth

2019-01-02 17:29:44 UTC  

It's often the only way for most countries

2019-01-02 17:30:44 UTC  

what if it's spent on hookers and blow?