maybe I have become black pilled, but if people have lost their freedom and liberty because they never tried to preserve it, I have no sympathy despite being idealogically libertarian

On another I know that we would lose the liberty that we do have if we do not sacrifice some tax dollars to fund a military.

well we all use the military equally at least

dont be an autistic ancap 😏

instead be a chad minarchist

dont be cucked by roads

My libertarian compromise has been "as small of a military as is necessary to protect our country from foreign invaders".

as much as I think being an ancap is a joke

bad plan

I'm a minarchist i guess

the government does a shit job in maintaining roads

the military does not succeed through a strategy of having exactly enough

True

what is proper is to completely overwhelm the enemy to the effect that the war is ended as quickly as possible

Anyways.

That problem has been pervading my mind the last week.

Whether or not it is okay for the government to take a little bit of liberty for the sake of protecting liberty.

i think we should spend every dollar we can on defense

What people hate about libertarianism is it means they don't get to play their part in being God.

and helicopters

being the best can barely win a war, being the best by a huge margin will end it quicker

Being the best by a huge margin prevents the war in the first place.

exactly

send 1 billion men and not a single man on either side will die

Regardless.

Do you see the problem I have?

yes

just as the old latin adage goes, "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum"

if you want peace, prepare for war

thats why libertarianism and ancapism doest work

well...

maybe I paint libertarianism with a much larger brush then I should, but I consider any idealogy that supports or is the basis of the US constitution to be libertarianism

I mean, I cannot really ditch Libertarianism though.

It seems to me like the only solid philosophy that can be secular.

well there are other philosophies that are secular, but they are communism and fascism lol

even those in the enlightenment period believed in a god, they were just deists <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

Nationalism is secular yes?

^Can be

Nationalism breaks down though when you get into the details.

What is "benefiting the nation"?

I dont think you can fully implement libertarian ideals while still having a country normies will tolerate living in