Message from @KawaiiSamurai

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2019-02-07 05:21:45 UTC  

that's how a lot of cultures work too

2019-02-07 05:21:54 UTC  

At the micro level you would think these entities are completely suicidal

2019-02-07 05:22:10 UTC  

they have rituals and ideals in place for the purpose of preserving the system

2019-02-07 05:22:25 UTC  

Yes, maintaining critical mass

2019-02-07 05:22:35 UTC  

The origin of religion

2019-02-07 05:23:06 UTC  

but culture isn't static, so there's a freedom to evolve based on environmental pressures

2019-02-07 05:23:19 UTC  

and so you see that happen when the environment for a culture changes

2019-02-07 05:23:23 UTC  

To prevent people from becoming TOO self-aware and indepently critical that they cannot agree with anyone, thus all wander away and die

2019-02-07 05:23:56 UTC  

I've recently been studying indian culture and you see this a lot, even within castes and between families

2019-02-07 05:24:30 UTC  

It is one reason I believe we have such issues with religion. It is a tool we should have tossed away long ago.

2019-02-07 05:24:48 UTC  

We outgrew its use.

2019-02-07 05:25:06 UTC  

I don't have a problem with religion

2019-02-07 05:25:09 UTC  

We have other concepts to replace it that will unify us.

2019-02-07 05:25:28 UTC  

I think the usefulness of any tool depends on the competence of those who wield it

2019-02-07 05:25:42 UTC  

It is too authoritarian and subversive, rejecting, for the most part, critical thinking.

2019-02-07 05:25:46 UTC  

and I think a lot of people just lost a lot of their common sense at some point in history

2019-02-07 05:26:22 UTC  

If your tool does not allow you to wonder if it is broken, then your tool is probably fucked now, or will be at some point.

2019-02-07 05:26:46 UTC  

And you will never know.

2019-02-07 05:26:50 UTC  

well don't go thinking dogma is just a problem with religion

2019-02-07 05:26:58 UTC  

It isnt

2019-02-07 05:27:00 UTC  

dogma exists in literally every human endeavor

2019-02-07 05:27:29 UTC  

I mean it *can* but I wouod not say it *does*.

2019-02-07 05:27:33 UTC  

and dogma isn't a core component of religion

2019-02-07 05:28:04 UTC  

it's a byproduct of people being people

2019-02-07 05:28:16 UTC  

It always seems to come with it, so my solution is simple. Get rid of the thing that is always bringing the other thing.

2019-02-07 05:28:36 UTC  

then you may as well get rid of science and philosophy, because they are also plagued with dogma

2019-02-07 05:28:46 UTC  

also economics

2019-02-07 05:28:54 UTC  

I don't think you can get rid of it but you get my point

2019-02-07 05:29:05 UTC  

Peopoe shoukd resist the subversion

2019-02-07 05:29:21 UTC  

yes but what I'm saying is don't throw the baby out with the bathwater

2019-02-07 05:29:46 UTC  

And if the baby wants to kill everyone?

2019-02-07 05:29:57 UTC  

religion is a specific tool, just like science and philosophy, and politics, and every other dimension of the human spirit

2019-02-07 05:30:01 UTC  

Except ots parents

2019-02-07 05:30:08 UTC  

and they all can produce dogma, and they all can become murderous

2019-02-07 05:30:41 UTC  

the Frankfurt School was not a religious school

2019-02-07 05:30:42 UTC  

Yes and look at Islam. It needs very badly to not exist, for the sake of my OWN existence.

2019-02-07 05:30:58 UTC  

Eugenics is not based on the foundation of a deity

2019-02-07 05:31:18 UTC  

any dimension of human pursuit can fall victim to ignorance and dogma

2019-02-07 05:31:23 UTC  

You make your own deity at that point, the ideal person.

2019-02-07 05:31:34 UTC  

and if you pick favorites then you are falling victim to your own personal dogma

2019-02-07 05:31:49 UTC  

Self defense is not dogma.