Message from @David "Gaben" Cameron

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2019-11-02 02:58:38 UTC  

https://youtu.be/k77cNMgwQCI Yeah I change my mind, this looks cartoonish as hell, especially the American elite.

2019-11-02 03:01:20 UTC  

Like, the Japanese elite would look plausible without the two katanas on his back. Katanas, and swords in general, always carried by the waist, and even then, swords were only used for ceremonial purposes, not for combat, for the officer to commit sepuku.

2019-11-02 03:06:00 UTC  

The katanas should be used like any other melee weapon. A brutal finishing kill when you've exhausted all other options. Like Tom Sullivan's death from WaW. No anime style slashing or actual swordplay.

2019-11-02 03:13:20 UTC  

man, the outer world seems so bland, uninspiring, boring characters. It looks beautiful but the setting sucks

2019-11-02 03:13:57 UTC  

it sounds like a cool concept, but totally just bland sci-fi, bland assets, bland narrative

2019-11-02 03:42:37 UTC  

@Smoke It's the opposite for me. I don't like it's take on retro-futurism, you could tell they really wanted to be like Fallout in that regard, but the roaring 20s and cyberpunk don't jive well.

2019-11-02 03:47:55 UTC  

The question I have is, how did Obsidian go from Caesar's Legion to "your companion is aesexual".

2019-11-02 03:49:23 UTC  

ya, 90% of the characters are lesbians with short hair

2019-11-02 03:49:26 UTC  

ZZzzzzz

2019-11-02 03:49:35 UTC  

and not even unique or interesting characters

2019-11-02 03:50:09 UTC  

I think/hope cyberpunk is gonna blow this out of the water. This feels super dated with nice graphics / few decent mechanics on top

2019-11-02 03:50:41 UTC  

Fallout New Vegas had homosexuality but it was for the sake of roleplay as opposed to political point scoring.

2019-11-02 03:51:38 UTC  

Ya, I don't even care as long as there is some actual story/drama behind it

2019-11-02 03:52:11 UTC  

One of your companions, Arcade Ganon, is gay. He's just gay. The game dosen't make a big deal about it, and he dosen't even "come out" to you, he just *is* gay.

2019-11-02 03:53:32 UTC  

One of the ways to secure him as a companion is by flirting with him, if your character has the Confirmed Bachelor perk.

2019-11-02 03:55:26 UTC  

He was always my favourite companion in New Vegas, though he's definitely a subtle leftist.

2019-11-02 03:55:43 UTC  

eh...ya idk. Its just so boring. There no drama. You can pretty much choose whatever action you want and everything works out for you

2019-11-02 03:55:54 UTC  

I think they didn't spend enough time on writing

2019-11-02 03:56:05 UTC  

dialogue is decent, but overarching drama isn't

2019-11-02 03:56:09 UTC  

As for Obsidian's *transition*, I have a feeling that the guilty factor is the one shared by any other dev who made a great game back in the day but has not captured that exact same magic in their modern entries. The gradual *replacement* of their original team. See Bungie and Blizzard for instance.

2019-11-02 03:56:32 UTC  

True. All these young diversity hires.

2019-11-02 03:57:12 UTC  

Look at what happened to cyberpunk and how the faces of CD Projekt RED's team has changed since it was announced in '15 compared to this year

2019-11-02 03:57:24 UTC  

A bunch of polish dudes vs chubby chicks with danger hair

2019-11-02 03:58:12 UTC  

I think Cyberpunk 2077 is still gonna be great.

2019-11-02 03:58:56 UTC  

ya, i hope cyberpunk doesn't suck. Probably my most anticipated game tn

2019-11-02 03:59:32 UTC  

And honestly, having SJW shit wouldn't even be out of place in 2077, given that cybernetics and transhumanism are topics widely discussed by leftists like Sadie Plant.

2019-11-02 04:01:32 UTC  

They seem to think inverting your dick is literally the same as merging your brain with AI.

2019-11-02 04:03:28 UTC  

But yeah, I'm actually fine with politics in video games. Characters with real-world political motivations are generally more nuanced. Fiction writers aren't political writers and have trouble thinking up causes that people would actually follow irl.

2019-11-02 04:04:15 UTC  

I think it typically hurts the story. Makes it very bland and typically user-friendly

2019-11-02 04:04:21 UTC  

no interesting / controversial topics

2019-11-02 04:04:39 UTC  

I'm hopeful cyberpunk just plays it into the dystopic setting, and has some interesting story still

2019-11-02 04:06:39 UTC  

I like how the Wikipedia synopsis of Death Stranding is just a quote from Kojima because nobody can even hope to understand the plot of Death Stranding through 2nd hand testimony.

2019-11-02 04:07:26 UTC  

that looks like a potential dumpster fire tbh lol

2019-11-02 04:08:27 UTC  

Not sure I'll actually like the plot. It seems to me that your objective is to forcibly assimilate cities that desire independence, to create a new United States. Kojima has always been sort of an activist. I hope he tackles the topic with some nuance instead of portraying their secessionists as barbarians and xenophobes.

2019-11-02 04:09:58 UTC  

yes, nuance is what make shit interesting

2019-11-02 04:10:44 UTC  

```People have created "Walls" and become accustomed to living in isolation. Death Stranding is a completely new type of action game, where the goal of the player is to reconnect isolated cities and a fragmented society. It is created so that all elements, including the story and gameplay, are bound together by the theme of the "Strand" or connection. As Sam Porter Bridges, you will attempt to bridge the divides in society, and in doing create new bonds or "Strands" with other players around the globe. Through your experience playing the game, I hope you'll come to understand the true importance of forging connections with others.```
— Hideo Kojima

2019-11-02 04:11:23 UTC  

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2019-11-02 04:11:48 UTC  

it might work if it's super disconnected from contemporary times/reality

2019-11-02 04:11:56 UTC  

else it will be a shallow political statement

2019-11-02 04:12:55 UTC  

It's post-apocalyptic.