Message from @neeber
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The main reason that so many have ulster scot blood is because practically ALL the early Irish
Were of the protestant Ulster Scot people
@Boniface And presidents like Nixon had ancestors who were apparently more mixed Irish
I.e
Already Anglo-Irish mutts
You can see the list for yourself
Ulster Scots are counted in as Irish
Simply because they lived in Ireland
Infact
Most of the prominent ”Irish”
Aren’t even Irish
As is noted here:
https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/whats-in-a-name/
Note that the author is Irish
But as is noted:
interesting
”[W]henever you hear about some famous “irish” person, like a scientist or an author, they’re more than likely to have anglo-irish or scots-irish ancestry.
for instance, if you look at this list on wikipedia of famous “irish” scientists (*chuckle*), the vast majority are or were either of scots-irish, old english, or anglo-irish background, not native irish. one or two were even partly or fully of some other ethnic background(s) (i.e. french huguenot and sephardic jewish). i can pick out only seven who are likely candidates for having a (mostly) native irish background: louis brennan, pádraig de brún, nicholas callan, aeneas coffey, richard kirwan (“one of the last supporters of the theory of phlogiston”), william dargan, and john philip holland — and i’m not so sure about dargan or holland (both of those surnames could be either british or irish). so that’s five to seven native irish out of a list of forty “irish”, and i bet most of you have never heard of any of them”
@Boniface We see the same pattern with Nobel Prize laureats, the great majority aren’t actually pure Irish
Interesting. I never knew that.
celtic might be a better term
@neeber No
We already have good terms
And we see large differences between the Catholic and Protestant ”Irish” aswell
Since the protestants are more nordic derived
We see some interesting phenotypical differences
i am aware
grew up in scotland
Yes
the amount of cross pollination between scotland and ulster irish
very similar at this point
Ulster Scots
They’re not Irish
They are a mix between lowland scots
not counting the amount of irish that came over crossing generations
And northern bongs
They’re still not racially Irish
Similar to how the Norman upper classes in Ireland
Aren’t Irish
genetically but culturally irish